Ellis Rimmer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 I don't know why we are making it a thing about our CBs, we have plenty elsewhere to make up for it. There aren't that many great CBs around anyway so I don't think we are dramatically behind in this area compared to other countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, Ellis Rimmer said: I don't know why we are making it a thing about our CBs, we have plenty elsewhere to make up for it. There aren't that many great CBs around anyway so I don't think we are dramatically behind in this area compared to other countries Disagree. Most successful sides are secure at the back. We've got a dodgy number 1 and our best CB coming back from injury. I don't even rate Maguire that highly but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, SiJ said: Disagree. Most successful sides are secure at the back. We've got a dodgy number 1 and our best CB coming back from injury. I don't even rate Maguire that highly but still. It's not the point I am making, I agree you need a well functioning defence but in comparison to other nations our defence doesn't look particularly weaker than others. Although we don't like Mings he is a similar standard to many other nation's defenders. I just had a look at the other contenders squads and a fair few have players that we would similarly worried about if they were in our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 Walker on the right of a 3 is about our strongest option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, The only way is S6 said: Walker on the right of a 3 is about our strongest option. We need his pace and physicality. He's also comfortable venturing into wide areas. Some CBs are not. SSN were reporting that Shaw was getting tried in the back three too today. Bit damming on selection if Shaw ends up at left CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 He was very good at Boro going forward from a back 4. Not a 3 CB for me. Got mugged in Europa final for Villarreal goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SiJ said: We need his pace and physicality. He's also comfortable venturing into wide areas. Some CBs are not. SSN were reporting that Shaw was getting tried in the back three too today. Bit damming on selection if Shaw ends up at left CB. Hope not. One of Shaws weaknesses is his positioning Hes a marauding wing back. Another solid choice by the waistcoat wolly Edited June 10, 2021 by FreshOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 I'm just looking at other teams predicted line ups and convinced we are gonna win it now. Laughing my head off at France needing to select Pogba, Germany with crappy Gnarbry that was at Arsenal up front, Belgian still rely on fatty Hazard and Spain had to poach Laporte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Ellis Rimmer said: I'm just looking at other teams predicted line ups and convinced we are gonna win it now. Laughing my head off at France needing to select Pogba, Germany with crappy Gnarbry that was at Arsenal up front, Belgian still rely on fatty Hazard and Spain had to poach Laporte You're kidding, right? Gnabry is class. Laporte is a brilliant player. Pogba excels at international level. I'll give you Hazard atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Gnabry a regular for Bayern and key player in their Champs League victory the previous season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, SiJ said: You're kidding, right? Gnabry is class. Laporte is a brilliant player. Pogba excels at international level. I'll give you Hazard atm. It's tongue in cheek but the thing is nobody is a million miles ahead of us. I didn't get this feeling in past tournements that we can match most teams for quality. Even our golden generation never quite felt we were as matched as this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, SiJ said: Gnabry a regular for Bayern and key player in their Champs League victory the previous season He will always be an Arsenal reject though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, Ellis Rimmer said: He will always be an Arsenal reject though He was a West Brom reject too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Ellis Rimmer said: It's tongue in cheek but the thing is nobody is a million miles ahead of us. I didn't get this feeling in past tournements that we can match most teams for quality. Even our golden generation never quite felt we were as matched as this year. You might have a point. I don't know, I'd still put us in that second tier of international football. A good group of players who may go far if a few things fall into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, SiJ said: He was a West Brom reject too Exactly, he's a WBA reject = We win the Euros Just now, SiJ said: You might have a point. I don't know, I'd still put us in that second tier of international football. A good group of players who may go far if a few things fall into place. a lot of it relies on what we hope they can do based on age really, we don't have the big names but we have a hope that they can join that level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: It's tongue in cheek but the thing is nobody is a million miles ahead of us. I didn't get this feeling in past tournements that we can match most teams for quality. Even our golden generation never quite felt we were as matched as this year. It’s not necessarily about the individuals. These teams are just far more well drilled and organised than England and it always shows later on in tournaments We have a few good players on paper. But are so disjointed across the park with Kane dropping into midfield etc We still don’t know how to break down any decent teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: It’s not necessarily about the individuals. These teams are just far more well drilled and organised than England and it always shows later on in tournaments We have a few good players on paper. But are so disjointed across the park with Kane dropping into midfield etc We still don’t know how to break down any decent teams agree with most of that but don't agree with the bolded bit we need to stop assuming that because other teams have failed the current years crop will do. Kane certainly needs to stop dropping in midfield Also Gareth has also left everything kinda late imo, why he took so long to select Grealish etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: I don't know why we are making it a thing about our CBs, we have plenty elsewhere to make up for it. There aren't that many great CBs around anyway so I don't think we are dramatically behind in this area compared to other countries The funny thing being, when Stones dropped a bollk v Poland in March, Maguire got him out of sht with winner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, SiJ said: He's one of his boys, so don't rule him out starting on Sunday. Think GS is pooping himself over the CB area. The problem will be that he won't be anywhere near match fit. Sub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Dronfield Blue said: The problem will be that he won't be anywhere near match fit. Sub? You'd think not. Have some real issues at CB though. Fear he's called up two duffers in Coady and Mings. The one positive on Coady is he's pretty good in the middle of a back three/five. Mings is a like a bombscare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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