beswetherick Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 13 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: Here's Boothroyd trying to justify his failures: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12016/12261053/aidy-boothroyd-says-england-u21-job-is-utterly-impossible-and-defends-young-lions-selection-policy Completely ignoring the fact that every other under 21 national team coach will be in the same position yet many don't have as big a pool of players to pick from as he does. No shots on target from open play in 2 games. Cracking stuff. Plenty of the Under 21 players in his squad train alongside top players with top class coaches at their clubs day in day out, they aren't relying on Boothroyd to nurture their talent. I guess getting knocked out of tournaments early with poor performances is ideal preparation to play for the senior national team though to be fair. Just read a similar article on the beeb. I don’t think any other major footballing nation has both senior and U21 managers that are as under-qualified and out of their depth as England. As a nation, we’ve been crap at producing decent coaches for a long time now and this is the result. I’d be disappointed if Southgate was Wednesday manager, how he’s got the England job is quite incredible... and Bothroyd is a failed League Two coach, why on Earth is he coaching England U21s?! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, beswetherick said: Just read a similar article on the beeb. I don’t think any other major footballing nation has both senior and U21 managers that are as under-qualified and out of their depth as England. As a nation, we’ve been crap at producing decent coaches for a long time now and this is the result. I’d be disappointed if Southgate was Wednesday manager, how he’s got the England job is quite incredible... and Bothroyd is a failed League Two coach, why on Earth is he coaching England U21s?! AB can only do one thing when we bomb out of that group. Hand his resignation in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, beswetherick said: Just read a similar article on the beeb. I don’t think any other major footballing nation has both senior and U21 managers that are as under-qualified and out of their depth as England. As a nation, we’ve been crap at producing decent coaches for a long time now and this is the result. I’d be disappointed if Southgate was Wednesday manager, how he’s got the England job is quite incredible... and Bothroyd is a failed League Two coach, why on Earth is he coaching England U21s?! I have been somewhat lenient in terms of Southgate as I think he has done a decent job so far. I certainly haven't agreed with all of his decisions but I don't think anyone else would have got much more out of the national team in the time he has been in charge. Yes we had a relatively easy run to the World Cup semi-final but previous managers with good squads have had easy runs in the past and have failed to deliver. I guess the jury is still out in that respect but as you say, his CV is far from a list of successes in football management and it is hard to justify how he got the under 21 job on that basis, never mind the senior gig. As for Boothroyd, it is hard to look past his personal relationship with the guy who was high up in the FA when he got the job in the first place but since that bloke left a few years ago it seems unfathomable how he is still in the position based on results and performances. They point towards the bigger picture and how his role is to support progression to the senior team but surely it would make more sense to appoint someone in the under 21's whose philosophy and way of playing more closely matches that of the first team. Some of Southgate's tactics have been negative but his approach seems a world away from the direct style that Boothroyd found limited success with at club level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, hirstyboywonder said: I have been somewhat lenient in terms of Southgate as I think he has done a decent job so far. I certainly haven't agreed with all of his decisions but I don't think anyone else would have got much more out of the national team in the time he has been in charge. Yes we had a relatively easy run to the World Cup semi-final but previous managers with good squads have had easy runs in the past and have failed to deliver. I guess the jury is still out in that respect but as you say, his CV is far from a list of successes in football management and it is hard to justify how he got the under 21 job on that basis, never mind the senior gig. As for Boothroyd, it is hard to look past his personal relationship with the guy who was high up in the FA when he got the job in the first place but since that bloke left a few years ago it seems unfathomable how he is still in the position based on results and performances. They point towards the bigger picture and how his role is to support progression to the senior team but surely it would make more sense to appoint someone in the under 21's whose philosophy and way of playing more closely matches that of the first team. Some of Southgate's tactics have been negative but his approach seems a world away from the direct style that Boothroyd found limited success with at club level. That’s a great post. Must be a right culture shock for the U21s at top PL clubs who are used to working with world class coaches every day... to then going away with the U21s and getting managed by Aidy Boothroyd 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Boothroyd = brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Boothroyd = rubbish you could see that shot a mile off why didn’t they close him down? boothroyd can’t be responsible for that piglet in net no chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 Pope Walker Maguire Stones Chilwell Phillips Rice Foden Mount Sterling Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 ️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Kane does take a good penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitechapel Owl Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Sterling is so greedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huncho Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 There goes Kane again. Dropping to the halfway line for absolutely no reason to pick up the ball, for absolutely no reason. WTF is wrong with him? Stay up front lad, you’re no Maradona 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 We look so iffy defensively, Pope's not helping, but trying to be a 'playing out of defence' team will be our downfall once we play someone decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marconi Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Southgate has assembled an exciting young team that should be around for quite a few years to come. Pleasure to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 why not shoot more? theyve had enough opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 26 minutes ago, Whitechapel Owl said: Sterling is so greedy Could have shot twice easily when in on goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huncho Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, Weshallovercome said: We look so iffy defensively, Pope's not helping, but trying to be a 'playing out of defence' team will be our downfall once we play someone decent. You said it! 1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Pathetic, we're playing crap and deserved that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Cracking goal from Che Adams in our game. 3-0 up against the Faroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 We've put sweet FA into this game in terms of application and effort. It's a real warning sign about attitude and believing your own hype. Rubbish so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Good, I like to see Scotland do well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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