shandypants Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Hear me out before you start to have a go. These last four games have been appalling. However, this is a nothing tournament and a time to try things, which Southgate has done - so I don't think he can or should be sacked on the strength of these performances and, let's face it, he won't be. What Southgate needs to do is learn from these games. He needs to learn that some of the senior players are now not good enough. He needs to learn that most of the players he's introduced aren't ready or aren't good enough. He needs to learn that some of the capable players ego's have got in the way. He needs to learn that some of the formations that he has tried don't work. The time to sack Southgate is if he clearly shows that he hasn't learnt from this set of games. I am not defending Southgate or the team, BTW, because everything about the last four games has been utter dog5h1t - I am just trying to understanding where we currently find ourselves. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfcAH Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I'm sorry but fatigues a poor excuse for losing 4-0 to a team with a Barnsley player and a MLS player making up the squad 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, HIGHERSTATE said: Got to agree with that. Did Hungary players not play last season just finished? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Gareth Southgate would have far more chance winning a By Election than winning a game of football ..... #Horses for courses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfcAH Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 He's the international equivalent of Alan Irvine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danblakemore Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Stop giving caps to players who clearly aren’t good enough. It’s that simple. just cos they’ve had 5 or 6 good premier league games doesn’t mean they are capable of playing for England. Gallagher - no Bowen - no Ramsdale - no Saka - no 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, shandypants said: Hear me out before you start to have a go. These last four games have been appalling. However, this is a nothing tournament and a time to try things, which Southgate has done - so I don't think he can or should be sacked on the strength of these performances and, let's face it, he won't be. What Southgate needs to do is learn from these games. He needs to learn that some of the senior players are now not good enough. He needs to learn that most of the players he's introduced aren't ready or aren't good enough. He needs to learn that some of the capable players ego's have got in the way. He needs to learn that some of the formations that he has tried don't work. The time to sack Southgate is if he clearly shows that he hasn't learnt from this set of games. I am not defending Southgate or the team, BTW, because everything about the last four games has been utter dog5h1t - I am just trying to understanding where we currently find ourselves. You mean't Sack the Manager Lot less words ....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Sack him now, give it Mourinho immediately 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, OWLERTON GHOST said: Gareth Southgate would have far more chance winning a By Election than winning a game of football ..... #Horses for courses He is very much the politician. Let's see what he says tonight. I want to see him utterly contrite and genuinely apologetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, danblakemore said: Stop giving caps to players who clearly aren’t good enough. It’s that simple. just cos they’ve had 5 or 6 good premier league games doesn’t mean they are capable of playing for England. Gallagher - no Bowen - no Ramsdale - no Saka - no Saka has proven on more than 1 occasion that he’s good enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: You mean't Sack the Manager Lot less words ....... No I didn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, shandypants said: He is very much the politician. Let's see what he says tonight. I want to see him utterly contrite and genuinely apologetic. The bloke sat and bemoaned the fact we rely on Kane to score the goals….whilst picking 7 defensive minded players… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Mourinho now to save our World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0742 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 People go on about the euro final and the WC semi, but this is the best England squad we've ever had. England under Southgate are a tough watch and let's be honest, if he was sacked in the nuhed struggle to get a job at one of the top clubs. Losing 3-0 and he brings a forward off for Maguire. The press should ask him what he was trying to achieve with that as all it did was give their back line more space to move the ball about, find a man who then scored! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Who cares about these games. They don’t want to play. I've copied this post and saving it for a "December Haunting" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Hungary were really capable… we couldn’t even control the ball… Tired or not, these games have shown that teams can ‘do a job on us’ by getting the basics right/being organised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanidaho Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 England are regressing to their level. They had two kind draws in the last two major tournaments and went further than they really should've. A good result in Qatar would be quarter finals, on this form i'd just be happy to get out of the group... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, shandypants said: No I didn't You should have ..... Indefensible 2 weeks of football. That one of us on here could have gotten a better result out of that squad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Channel 4 reviewing that TV contract 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Apologise Harry!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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