Sova Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 He certainly didn't get Stoke into the Premier League overnight. In fact, it took him so long he went and managed another club along the way. And his 3rd (2nd full) season with them was one of the most boring in history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004–05_Stoke_City_F.C._season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, FinnishOwl said: All our managers apart from Bruce followed the exact the same trend -- everything seemed to click at first but then something (Christmas?) happened. And once it starts to happen, at Wednesday it's unstoppable. Here's hoping that Pulis can avoid that curse. And no, I'm not hoping that we'll be crap right from the start. Nothing happened apart from Monk dropped Westwood and Hutchinson, and Fletcher picked up an injury. I know Westwood didn’t play for a month or so before that but Dawson couldn’t drop standards knowing he wasn’t number 1.. that changed when Westwood got bombed out. Ditching Hutchinson left us weak in the middle. Losing Fletcher who was our main goalscorer killed us. Reality is prior to that we’d been poor as well, just having the above players involved meant we fell on the right side of the margins. Without them we were very much on the wrong side of the margins, then confidence goes and it snowballs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sova said: He certainly didn't get Stoke into the Premier League overnight. In fact, it took him so long he went and managed another club along the way. And his 3rd (2nd full) season with them was one of the most boring in history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004–05_Stoke_City_F.C._season Tbh it does kind of feel like he makes you competitive whatever the situation but he doesn’t have massive promotion pedigree. Will be interesting to see what happens if he plays for 1-0s with us and our tendency to drop points in the last 5 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I think it was DC that gave the ‘overnight’ impression when he got a bit excited by the first season exploits. Can’t blame the fans for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 4 hours ago, brando said: Let's wind the club up then ...fizz it..we can all go and support Leeds... Whatever happens to my beloved Wednesday, I’d never sink to following that nasty lot. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 11 hours ago, @owlstalk said: If you look at it - every single tiny shred of evidence (whether it be Pulis record, our spending ability, our squad etc) points to that not being possible Pullis record? You mean never finishing below 7th in the championship in the last decade? And I thought records at previous clubs didn’t mean anything? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Sova said: He certainly didn't get Stoke into the Premier League overnight. In fact, it took him so long he went and managed another club along the way. And his 3rd (2nd full) season with them was one of the most boring in history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004–05_Stoke_City_F.C._season I bet Stoke fans really hated getting promoted then punching about their weight for so long under Pulis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 13 hours ago, One De Bilde said: Thought you would be backing the manager. Very disappointing He changes what he says on a comment by comment basis .. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcguigan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 17 hours ago, whowantstoberich said: I think there is going to be a lot of panic buying of humble pie next year when we are in the play offs with Pulis in charge! The Lg1 play offs should be the minimum requirement next season, anything else will be a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said: I bet Stoke fans really hated getting promoted then punching about their weight for so long under Pulis. That was two decades ago mate Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megsonstheman Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Reading the OP I wouldn't let him anywhere near the clubs finances judging by his lack of morality when at crystal place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sova Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said: I bet Stoke fans really hated getting promoted then punching about their weight for so long under Pulis. I'm sure they did. But the point is that it took them a long time, and they had to be very patient getting there. Which is what Pulis is getting at in the OP. (To be fair to him, he got Gillingham from near the bottom of the league to promotion in his first season, though that was even longer ago.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 18 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Good luck to educating some of our fans on how to build a club, not just a team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 18 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Standard spiel from any manager It’s called self preservation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 20 years outside the Prem. One thing Pulis won't have to do is educate our fans about success not coming overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: That was two decades ago mate He got Stoke promoted to the Premier League 12 years ago and kept them there until he left 7 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 14 hours ago, Kopparberg said: I’ve always said that our players don’t play for a full season... basically they ‘down tools’ somewhere along the way. Never bought into this view personally. Lots of people used to claim this was the case and it was a hangover from the Carlos days where there wasn't much discipline. Monk was to sort this by bringing in hard workers who would give their all. But already this season there has been plenty of accusations that players havent been committed enough. Its something that's trotted out every time there is a poor performance or run of form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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