BuckhurstOwl Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Quist said: https://www.90min.com/posts/sheffield-wednesday-supporters-should-heed-caution-amid-tony-pulis-rumours-opinion Well worth a read think author has situation worked out. so depressing to read. i genuinely hope we are the right fit for him, after watching the Oxford University interview with him he comes across as a good solid bloke but that does not get you promotion. the only highlight i can so far see is him making us tough to beat but dire to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hirstysfags Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Agenda driven bucket of Shi............. Yep, we aren't "rooted to the bottom of the Championship" and United aren't enjoying "dining at the top table". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, hirstysfags said: Yep, we aren't "rooted to the bottom of the Championship" and United aren't enjoying "dining at the top table". They’re getting a shoeing at the foot of the table at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Agenda driven bucket of Shi............. YEY!!! WE GOT AN ‘agenda’ POST!!!!! 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hirstysfags Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: YEY!!! WE GOT AN ‘agenda’ POST!!!!! Every post helps remember Neil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 31 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: The reason why Chansiri wants to appoint Pulis is TO KEEP US UP. The two-and-a-half year deal is to persuade him to come. He's not over-keen, and who could blame him with an outfit like we've got. With Colin and Six Fingers (who Owls fans also rejected) being already engaged, survival experts are a bit thin on the ground. Lee Bullen would keep us up.. we aren’t far adrift and just need to have a go in games more. It’s not worth paying Pulis £3m if that’s the only objective. His remit is surely going to be promotion next season if he’s signing a contract that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: YEY!!! WE GOT AN ‘agenda’ POST!!!!! I saw article and it reflected what I thought, kept getting asked questions so thought I would start thread and use article. Think ts worth a read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said: Lee Bullen would keep us up.. we aren’t far adrift and just need to have a go in games more. It’s not worth paying Pulis £3m if that’s the only objective. His remit is surely going to be promotion next season if he’s signing a contract that long I think Lee Bullen would get a new manager bounce for 2-3 games then after that we would go back to being awful. I dont think he has the respect of the players when he is in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just now, matthefish2002 said: I think Lee Bullen would get a new manager bounce for 2-3 games then after that we would go back to being awful. I dont think he has the respect of the players when he is in charge. Well my point was more that lots of managers could keep us up from this position with 35 games left. If survival this season is the only goal then it can be done much cheaper than with Pulis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) It's a bit of a meh appointment. His teams have done well to stay up in the top flight but he hasn't had much success in the Football League, his two promotions were years ago. As a long term deal I don't see it being exciting or what we need and I don't see him having what it takes to get us promoted in the long run. He'll keep us in the division but so would a more attacking manager. My biggest concerns are we don't have the players to suit Pulis' style, how the club is being ran and there doesn't seem to be any forward thinking or nothing to get excited about. Our managerial appointments seem rooted in the past and ill thought out just like our player recruitment. The last few years have been dire apart from Carlos' first season, Bruce's appointment was exciting because he was a promotion specialist, so DC decides to bring in one of the most dire managers in recent history. Edited November 13, 2020 by The Night-Owl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Little point building a team around Bannan if he’s likely gone in a few weeks. We have van Aken and Paterson with a longish throw. We don’t have quality in abundance as it is. I am looking forward to who the 20/21 version of CB turned CF Warhurst to be deployed by Pulis to get us out of the relegation dogfight... My money is on Borner or Dunkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Agenda driven bucket of Shi............. Why is it "agenda driven" and not an "opinion piece", what agenda is being pushed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said: Well my point was more that lots of managers could keep us up from this position with 35 games left. If survival this season is the only goal then it can be done much cheaper than with Pulis In fact would go as far as to say it’s damn cheeky to ask for a £1.5m bonus for doing his job and achieving the bare minimum. It’s nowhere near as difficult as when he came in at Palace with them adrift in the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Here’s a thought what would be more financially beneficially to us pulis on a deal to end of season with a bonus to keep us up my guess is he would want a higher salary and big bonus or pulis on a two and a half year deal and dismiss him at the end of the year or soon after genuine question chansiri speaks about making a manager appointment for the right person at the time and even the most anti pulis campaigners must see some logic in appointing pulis for now we don’t know yet if or how much progress he will make in t he next 6 months to 30 months and where we will need to base our needs in the next 6-18 months a length of contract isn’t really much to go on in management because managers and their staff always get sacked we never actually no the compensation behind them or the bonus schemes tied into the contracts to make assumptions what is right or wrong I can’t imagine many manager would want to take on the job until the end of the season and give us the security because as we’ve seen in Bruce in leaving and more so what Sheridan has just done at Wigan if a job with a longer more committed contract comes along they will leave anyway with it coming into managers Merry-go-round Season is it realistic to expect a manager to take this job until the end of the season when in the next month or so he could land a job on a 3 year contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 37 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: The reason why Chansiri wants to appoint Pulis is TO KEEP US UP. The two-and-a-half year deal is to persuade him to come. He's not over-keen, and who could blame him with an outfit like we've got. With Colin and Six Fingers (who Owls fans also rejected) being already engaged, survival experts are a bit thin on the ground. If we keep Loungo fit we will stay up. Until injury crisis we looked a side capable of staying up. Squad is not worst in league b any means. I accept only way he would sign is to offer long deal but it is very expensive way to do it. His teams are fundamentally different so he will bring in goliaths and move out those who do not look like bouncers. Therefore any one who follows him has huge difficulty if they do not follow his system. Therefore even short term can be very troublesome. Look at how teams did when he left them. Most clubs got rid of him as his style impacted attendances and was unattractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standidno Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Financially we’re ruined for the next few years. relegation would be a disaster. Pulis steadies a sinking ship until financial restraints aren’t there anymore. its poo. But it makes sense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 How can you be a respectable Chairman to bring in such a divisive person. I know people usually want different manager's but other than Warnock can anyone think of aworse appointment or potential appointment where so many fans are very very clear they don't want him at all and some at best till end of season but don't really want him. DONT DO IT!!! IF YOU HAVE DONE IT THEN FIND AWAY OUT OF THE CONTRACT AND RIP IT UP NOW!!! THIS IS ALL MADNESS!!!! End of Trump like All Capital RANT! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 3 hours ago, S6ToBerlin said: I definitely fall into the group the author mentions that would be happy with Pulis till the end of the season, but surely we need to be more forward thinking long term. As a side which struggles to score goals as it is, surely the last thing we need is a long-term manager who is famous for not scoring many goals... Forward thinking, long term; this is Wednesday, we don’t do that. CC was building the club, improving faculties, youth system, style of play; but we didn’t have any patience. So, back to struggling and averaging a new manager every 18 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 hours ago, LondonOwl313 said: Lee Bullen would keep us up.. we aren’t far adrift and just need to have a go in games more. It’s not worth paying Pulis £3m if that’s the only objective. His remit is surely going to be promotion next season if he’s signing a contract that long Well. you and I simply have differing opinions, that's all, and there's nothing wrong with that. I think we're where we are largely because we are a piteous outfit in need of a manager of Pulis' type. For Me, 3m is worth paying to cheat the drop, especially after an investment of over £100m. Under the current circumstances, we're unlikely to be going for promotion next season whoever's in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Rogers said: Forward thinking, long term; this is Wednesday, we don’t do that. CC was building the club, improving faculties, youth system, style of play; but we didn’t have any patience. So, back to struggling and averaging a new manager every 18 months But CC had to get us up within a short time-frame, otherwise these problems were always going to happen. If we didn't go up, then we were bound to have problems with P&S. We've sold all the best players and are now a wretched outfit. Carlito would have been able to do little with this lot. And we played boring, defensive football under him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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