theowlsman Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, royalowlisback said: Thought this was going to be a science thread. It kind of is, he got batteried senseless Edited November 12, 2020 by theowlsman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, 31Dec1966 said: This ^ Apart from this appalling incident, the SYP behave despicably towards football fans. If they behaved like this towards any other section of society they would be (rightly) in trouble. I know a minority of fans cause trouble and act badly but to treat everyone of every age as though they are about to commit a crime is disgraceful. Filming innocent people coming out of Hillsborough and refusing to say why, then treating the questioner with disdain is terrible. They have every right to film whoever they want in public, as you do. Basically if you can see it you can film it. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross owl Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: They have every right to film whoever they want in public, as you do. Basically if you can see it you can film it. Criminalising the entire population by filming everything they do and guilty until proven innocent isn't policing by consent which is allegedly what the police in Britain are . Neither is it what happens in a free country . Its the kind of thing we believed only happened in communist and corrupt countries in the eighties and nineties. Now we don't even raise an eyebrow at being filmed constantly . 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, cross owl said: Criminalising the entire population by filming everything they do and guilty until proven innocent isn't policing by consent which is allegedly what the police in Britain are . Neither is it what happens in a free country . Its the kind of thing we believed only happened in communist and corrupt countries in the eighties and nineties. Now we don't even raise an eyebrow at being filmed constantly . How are they criminalising the public? Banning the taking of photos etc is what happens in communist and corrupt countries can you imagine the outcry if the government stopped people (Whoever they are) from taking photos? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, 31Dec1966 said: This ^ Apart from this appalling incident, the SYP behave despicably towards football fans. If they behaved like this towards any other section of society they would be (rightly) in trouble. I know a minority of fans cause trouble and act badly but to treat everyone of every age as though they are about to commit a crime is disgraceful. Filming innocent people coming out of Hillsborough and refusing to say why, then treating the questioner with disdain is terrible. I have never minded being filmed, but i've seen the way those questioning it have been treated. Sadly the ones questioning it are usually tanked up and haven't done it very eloquently though. The police aren't breaking any laws doing this and i've only ever seen it antagonise people, but I don't get why they do it at the locations they do - any trouble i've seen has always been a bit further away from the ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross owl Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: How are they criminalising the public? Banning the taking of photos etc is what happens in communist and corrupt countries can you imagine the outcry if the government stopped people (Whoever they are) from taking photos? And putting people going about their lawful business under twenty four / seven videoed scrutiny so they can go for every misdemeanor is also what happens in communist countries . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest The Claw Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 you can film what you like from public, this is what caught the plod, if they film you film them back. you have every right to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, cross owl said: And putting people going about their lawful business under twenty four / seven videoed scrutiny so they can go for every misdemeanor is also what happens in communist countries . And its the right of everyone to film. Would you deny that right to people? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: And its the right of everyone to film. Would you deny that right to people? I don't have a camera or mobile phone, could I sketch instead? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, royalowlisback said: I don't have a camera or mobile phone, could I sketch instead? Yep not a problem 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Claw said: you can film what you like from public, this is what caught the plod, if they film you film them back. you have every right to Exactly, would he have been charged if there was no film of his actions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgyowl Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 A thug like that should be nowhere near policing, a member of the public committing an offence like that would be doing prison time and hopefully he will too it's horrendous behaviour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Exactly, would he have been charged if there was no film of his actions? Not a chance 5 Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesowl Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, marconi said: The Faraday sh*tstorm. Put him in a cage 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Inspector Lestrade said: They have every right to film whoever they want in public, as you do. Basically if you can see it you can film it. Equally the general public have every right to film the plod in public places. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross owl Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Inspector Lestrade said: And its the right of everyone to film. Would you deny that right to people? 1 hour ago, Inspector Lestrade said: And its the right of everyone to film. Would you deny that right to people? And the right of people to be able to go about their lives not being filmed and potentially distributed by anyone who pleases means nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Equally the general public have every right to film the plod in public places. Exactly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, cross owl said: And the right of people to be able to go about their lives not being filmed and potentially distributed by anyone who pleases means nothing? You don't have that right you never have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 could easily have been a murder charge . been hit on back of the head at such force with a weapon could easily have resulted in that lad been murdered that day. sypolice are a disgrace , treat people right and watch how they behave better . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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