billyblack Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Id be quite happy with Cook, at least he has promotions on his CV. Also seems to work well with constraints. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 55 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Someone like Bruce is not going to come. Nigel Pearson is only name that is equivalent to Bruce without a job and I very much doubt he would even entertain coming with our points deduction, low budget, dysfunctional running of the club and poor playing squad. Chansiri was right we are not a big club to attract a big name. But you'd beg him and pay him as much as he demanded !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, southportdc said: Heard the final candidates are down to former SWFC player Michael Reddy, a player-manager role for Jon Stead(y), or Cook. I was on the point of getting angry at such a shortlist and then ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southportdc Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: Wigan were the form team in championship 2nd half of last season. On limited budget built a side with good resale value, players who went to higher championship clubs and premier League after the fire sale there. Only negative to him is his Scouse accent MODS RACISM BAN HIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I'd rather have Cook than anyone available at the moment. Wanted him last time but he was still with Wigan I believe. CANT be Pearson, i'd be seriously turned off if we appointed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Grandad said: Please - go for an experienced manager with a track record of success in this Division. Not someone whos only ever won promotion twice - in divisions below this one. Lets not waste any more time hoping we can get someone who will give it a good go - lets get someone like we did with Bruce. Someone we can believe in - rather than put out hope in. Absolutely mate. Another Steve Bruce type. Someone who understands the game, has been there and done it as a player himself, and can get the respect of the players. Do you want me to call Ollie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, southportdc said: MODS RACISM BAN HIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Grandad said: Please - go for an experienced manager with a track record of success in this Division. Not someone whos only ever won promotion twice - in divisions below this one. Lets not waste any more time hoping we can get someone who will give it a good go - lets get someone like we did with Bruce. Someone we can believe in - rather than put out hope in. Absolutely mate. Another Steve Bruce type. Someone who understands the game, has been there and done it as a player himself, and can get the respect of the players. Do you want me to call Ollie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Grandad said: Please - go for an experienced manager with a track record of success in this Division. Not someone whos only ever won promotion twice - in divisions below this one. Lets not waste any more time hoping we can get someone who will give it a good go - lets get someone like we did with Bruce. Someone we can believe in - rather than put out hope in. Absolutely mate. Another Steve Bruce type. Someone who understands the game, has been there and done it as a player himself, and can get the respect of the players. Do you want me to call Ollie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southportdc Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, striker said: Liverpool's changed mate there's a John Lewis now and everything. Admittedly people only stop in to use the demonstration iPads for a bit on the way to Primark, but it's there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Grandad said: Please - go for an experienced manager with a track record of success in this Division. Not someone whos only ever won promotion twice - in divisions below this one. Lets not waste any more time hoping we can get someone who will give it a good go - lets get someone like we did with Bruce. Someone we can believe in - rather than put out hope in. This 100% The sacking of Monk has created a very strange time Its allowed me to agree with both Neil and Grandad within the space of an hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j17tjp Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I could only be bothered to read the first page of replies to this thread, but I’d be thinking DC already has someone in place. you can’t just sack the manager & staff with no one lined up.... not even Wednesday would do that im sure it’ll be announced once he’s met with the first team etc during the int. break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrs Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Big character, promotions from this division, gets teams organised... step forward Mick McCarthy! oh he took a job in Cyprus last week. Damn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Look, I'm not against Paul Cook by any means, but I don't understand the volume of people calling for him. I've seen more against Pearson than against Cook, 2006–2007Southport 2007–2012Sligo Rovers 2012Accrington Stanley 2012–2015Chesterfield 2015–2017Portsmouth 2017–2020Wigan Athletic That's Paul Cook's history. Pretty average wouldnt you say? Certainly if you want to move up the Championship and get out of it in years to come Pearson: 2008–2010Leicester City 2010–2011Hull City 2011–2015Leicester City 2016 Derby County 2017–2019OH Leuven 2019–2020Watford Not suggesting you pick a manager purely based on this, but I honestly feel like theres a bit of bandwagon jumping about the Paul Cook stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, WhiteOwl91 said: Look, I'm not against Paul Cook by any means, but I don't understand the volume of people calling for him. I've seen more against Pearson than against Cook, 2006–2007Southport 2007–2012Sligo Rovers 2012Accrington Stanley 2012–2015Chesterfield 2015–2017Portsmouth 2017–2020Wigan Athletic That's Paul Cook's history. Wigan were relegated too 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrs Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Yes personally I think we do well with ambitious big name big character appointments. Bruce was ideal, I think McCarthy would’ve been good too, and history shows an Allardyce or Pearson type would probably work well at Wednesday. Having said that what I like about Cook is his consistently good track record everywhere he’s been - started in Ireland and then won championships with each of the last three clubs he’s been at. And I think his record in the championship with Wigan was respectable in the circumstances at the club. He plays a decent brand of football, is a passionate character and has managed clubs amidst financial turmoil and points deductions. And he’s available. Ticks almost every box for me. Wouldn’t be unhappy at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, WhiteOwl91 said: Look, I'm not against Paul Cook by any means, but I don't understand the volume of people calling for him. I've seen more against Pearson than against Cook, 2006–2007Southport 2007–2012Sligo Rovers 2012Accrington Stanley 2012–2015Chesterfield 2015–2017Portsmouth 2017–2020Wigan Athletic That's Paul Cook's history. Pretty average wouldnt you say? Certainly if you want to move up the Championship and get out of it in years to come Pearson: 2008–2010Leicester City 2010–2011Hull City 2011–2015Leicester City 2016 Derby County 2017–2019OH Leuven 2019–2020Watford Not suggesting you pick a manager purely based on this, but I honestly feel like theres a bit of bandwagon jumping about the Paul Cook stuff. Probably 2 of best managers in my Wednesday supporting life were Ron Atkinson and Howard Wilkinson. Big Ron had managed at Cambridge and Kettering before landing a decent sized club in West Brom Wilkinson had managed Boston, Mossley and Notts County before Wednesday. Chris Wilder had managed Halifax, Oxford and Northampton before his success at Sheff U. Think Paul Cook has dome well at every club he has been at. Think he deserves a chance at level up from those clubs at Sheffield Wednesday. Managed over 650 games so got good experience. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, WhiteOwl91 said: Look, I'm not against Paul Cook by any means, but I don't understand the volume of people calling for him. I've seen more against Pearson than against Cook, 2006–2007Southport 2007–2012Sligo Rovers 2012Accrington Stanley 2012–2015Chesterfield 2015–2017Portsmouth 2017–2020Wigan Athletic That's Paul Cook's history. Pretty average wouldnt you say? Certainly if you want to move up the Championship and get out of it in years to come Pearson: 2008–2010Leicester City 2010–2011Hull City 2011–2015Leicester City 2016 Derby County 2017–2019OH Leuven 2019–2020Watford Not suggesting you pick a manager purely based on this, but I honestly feel like theres a bit of bandwagon jumping about the Paul Cook stuff. Cook leaves clubs to better himself ,pearson leaves clubs coz they sack him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Wigan were relegated too They were, correct. Were you not aware of all the other stuff going on there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Cook seems a bit of a character and has a nasty side which seems to get a reaction as Colin does and Steve Evans. It’s hard not to admire what he has done at various clubs. But does it translate to a “big”’club and the culture there? Warnock and Evans both failed to repeat it at Leeds and it could be the same here. There is also the matter of one of our few goal threats in windass having a major fall out with him. We need someone that fits with the club and a good communicator that the fans can warm to. I could see Cook being very short term as an impact manager. I’d take him over Pulis though who would just take the same approach as Monk with lots of defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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