mcmigo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Lets buy stadium back from dc, sell back to him for 100m more, and go for it again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwellOwl Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 This is a great result, makes the job in hand easier than before. No excuses now, right in the mix of it again and have to build. Saturday is a huge game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dykwim Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, S1Owl said: give them 6 points back then if yer can't take that as a positive ffs Dude, tonight is positive. But we have to start winning games. We haven’t been scoring goals from open play. All the concerns since last December are still in play. It’s great we’ve been handed this opportunity tonight. I hope we can capitalise on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adem Poric Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 If Wayne Rooney's Derby County sack Cocu then you can only assume Wayne Rooney will be the next manager of Wayne Rooney's Derby County. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dykwim Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, SiJ said: Just to clarify: Couldn't help but notice brando hanging around this thread like the grim reaper. Tonight is a positive one, even if we have much to do We've got out harder situations than this before. Let's see what happens. Saturday is a big one. It’s presented a great opportunity to get out of trouble. I just hope we’ve got it in us to grab it with both hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 55 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: So you're saying we should all be United? If the kids are u u u uni urggghh They will never Be divided 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dykwim Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, mcmigo said: Lets buy stadium back from dc, sell back to him for 100m more, and go for it again! Just put it in this years accounts though, yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapSmurf Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 39 minutes ago, Salmonbones said: I think that is entirely the doubt. The ground sale should be allowed. Tomorrow may well see Chansiri say "not accepting six points, we go to the courts" No, it's not the doubt. There is no doubt. We breached the P&S rules for the 2018 season, as we did not complete the sale of the ground before the 31st July, as specified and requested by the EFL. It was their own suggestion to complete the ground sale by this date to avoid breaching the upper ceiling losses for that particular rolling 3 season accounting period. We failed to do that. We altered the Head of Terms twice after this date, once on the 10th and again on the 11th August, and therefore the sale was not deemed complete and was not permitted to be entered in to the 2018 season accounts. This is all made very clear in the documentation released by the Tribunal. The simple fact is had we acted with more expediancy and completed the sale prior to the 31st July, we would not be in this position. Chansiri will no doubt see the reduction in the pemalty as a positive result, and will no doubt draw a line under this particular episode. To further challenge this is nothing short of foolish, unless there is something that has not been declared during the hearing, and therefore not in the public domain. As for the ground sale being allowed, there has been no mention of this not being allowed, just not allowed in the account period we wanted. I guess it remains to be seen if and when we can add this to our accounts and what impact that has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, dykwim said: It’s presented a great opportunity to get out of trouble. I just hope we’ve got it in us to grab it with both hands. Exactly. I mean talk about a second chance for goodness sake. Yeah, we are bottom with ten games in, but we are now within a win or two of going above other teams. It's still very early on in the season. As I said earlier: I see this as a positive with respect to Monk. Absolutely no excuses for him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazapeps Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I need to keep off the Facebook forums, there’s numerous people praising DC, making out like he’s a hero and a genius 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dykwim Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SiJ said: Exactly. I mean talk about a second chance for goodness sake. Yeah, we are bottom with ten games in, but we are now within a win or two of going above other teams. It's still very early on in the season. As I said earlier: I see this as a positive with respect to Monk. Absolutely no excuses for him now. Personally I’d get rid. He’s proven he’s not up to it and if I were the chairman I wouldn’t risk his form taking us down after being presented a ‘get out of jail free’ card. If he sticks with him though I’m routing for him - I want every manager to be a success, don’t like calling for their heads. Monk has proven to me he’s not up to it. I’d absolutely love to be wrong though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, dykwim said: Personally I’d get rid. He’s proven he’s not up to it and if I were the chairman I wouldn’t risk his form taking us down after being presented a ‘get out of jail free’ card. If he sticks with him though I’m routing for him - I want every manager to be a success, don’t like calling for their heads. Monk has proven to me he’s not up to it. I’d absolutely love to be wrong though. Oh yeah, I would still get rid, but I'm being realistic to that not happening atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, ChapSmurf said: No, it's not the doubt. There is no doubt. We breached the P&S rules for the 2018 season, as we did not complete the sale of the ground before the 31st July, as specified and requested by the EFL. It was their own suggestion to complete the ground sale by this date to avoid breaching the upper ceiling losses for that particular rolling 3 season accounting period. We failed to do that. We altered the Head of Terms twice after this date, once on the 10th and again on the 11th August, and therefore the sale was not deemed complete and was not permitted to be entered in to the 2018 season accounts. This is all made very clear in the documentation released by the Tribunal. The simple fact is had we acted with more expediancy and completed the sale prior to the 31st July, we would not be in this position. Chansiri will no doubt see the reduction in the pemalty as a positive result, and will no doubt draw a line under this particular episode. To further challenge this is nothing short of foolish, unless there is something that has not been declared during the hearing, and therefore not in the public domain. As for the ground sale being allowed, there has been no mention of this not being allowed, just not allowed in the account period we wanted. I guess it remains to be seen if and when we can add this to our accounts and what impact that has. HOT's do not give a legal recourse. HOT's are a framework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 59 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Even getting six points back won't stop us being relegated unless Chansiri gets rid of Monk. Have a night off. You’ll get plenty more chances to slate him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakefieldowl Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 53 minutes ago, H2Owl said: Agreed. We need to be targeting Wycombe, Coventry and one of Barnsley/Rotherham. I think Derby and Forest will eventually pull clear. 2 points behind Wycombe 3 points behind Coventry 4 points behind Rotherham 5 behind Barnsley That's the season for us right there. Id agree with that, which makes the humiliating defeats to rovrum and wycombe even worse. Forest will climb away, but something isnt right at derby. They shouldnt be down there, but have a feeling they could go down. Lets concentrate on getting above those 4 for now though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, bazapeps said: I need to keep off the Facebook forums, there’s numerous people praising DC, making out like he’s a hero and a genius The only genius thing he did was hire (at top dollar) Nick de Marco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapSmurf Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Salmonbones said: HOT's do not give a legal recourse. HOT's are a framework. I am well aware of what Heads of Terms are and how they are deemed. The simple fact is that there were changes, and this gave indications that no agreement, even in principle, had been made or reached. If you want to keep arguing the facts and evidence given by the Tribunal, you go for it. It won't change a thing. We have been found guilty of breaching P&S and therefore we were charged accordingly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeky Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 9 points in 24 hours- woo and further more-hoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 He ain’t going nowhere now. This will buy him more time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Amazing! Been out all day and been blissfully unaware of this development until now. Was just checking the championship results on my phone and saw the league table. Saw us on 5 points and thought Sky had made a Cokk up! Fantastic news and whilst for me it changes nothing as far as Monk (out's) future is concerned, it does mean that any potential new manager will think they will have a very realistic chance of getting the club to safety in the table. Well done to DC and the legal team. Edited November 4, 2020 by Devonstrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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