gurujuan Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Carlos was driving a porsche of a squad instead of just driving it over the finish line he smashed straight into an old aged pensioner, a couple of lorries, and then into a brick wall before climbing out of the wreckage proclaiming himself to be the greatest driver ever And most of the race fans fell for it and yet the bulk of that side had us in the play off places as recently as last Christmas, until Monk got to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Carlos was driving a porsche of a squad instead of just driving it over the finish line he smashed straight into an old aged pensioner, a couple of lorries, and then into a brick wall before climbing out of the wreckage proclaiming himself to be the greatest driver ever And most of the race fans fell for it It wasn't in the top 3 squads or top 3 most expensive squads either season though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: He got booted out WAY too late to stop the rot setting in We're in the position we're in now because of his ridiculous mismanagement and training ground holiday camp That's one opinion not one that I subscribe too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, coopswfc76 said: All gone well since 2 play off campaigns. All went well after his first season if you class losing in the playoff final and then semi final whilst draining the club of money as a success then we are miles apart on our views. Carlos like every where he’s managed last a season then it started to turn sour. It’s a huge no from me!! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 We should put 'day out at wembley' and 'losing in a playoff semi final' on our honours board according some of the carlos fanboys in this thread 3 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nort pole owl Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, heppers said: We arguably peaked to early under him. Some great times but the end was dire. I’d love to know the real story. The real story is he spunk millions and fail to gets us promoted 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SallyCinnamon Posted November 1, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Rewriting history there BIG time That's recognised as one of the things he did the worst of all Yes because Carlos wanted Abdi just to never play him. He wanted McGugan who he froze out a month into his contract. Emanuelson, Lachman, Wiggins, Sougou were all world renowned players who Carlos knew about before taking the job. How about Sergiu Bus and Felipe Melo, did Stuart Gray know those players personally? Carlos was head coach. He’s gone on record as saying a lot of the players who joined the club he didn’t actually want. He also went on record as saying there was pressure to play certain players from those above him. Given what we know about DC, this seem entirely plausible. He wasn’t managing the finances. He had a remit to get us promoted. It was Chansiri’s responsibility to manage our finances correctly, spend within our means and run the club in a sustainable manner. What happened to “we have friends” if we fall foul of FFP? The mess we are now lies at one mans door and it certainly isn’t Carlos Carvalhal. 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 WE could make Carlos the "new" Peter Shreeves"...always leaves with good grace, then comes back when no other f.ooker will!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Including not kicking Carlos out way earlier than he did A situation we find ourselves in again with Monk. Unfortunately he's usually far too slow to react with his decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Not sure Carlos would do much with this lot but would be an improvement on Monk. Carvahal gets Monk's Leeds side promoted imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) At the time when Carlos left I remember thinking, what a mistake! This club will stagnate terribly on and off the pitch, culminating in a points deduction and several inept managers. We should never sack Carlos for the future is worse! I remember everyone thinking and saying that. Edited November 1, 2020 by TheEnchanter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, NorthernOwl said: A situation we find ourselves in again with Monk. Unfortunately he's usually far too slow to react with his decisions. Very true mate 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: We should put 'day out at wembley' and 'losing in a playoff semi final' on our honours board according some of the carlos fanboys in this thread Name one poster who has said that. Number 3582 Strawman argument not that I'm keeping count. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_ Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Typical Wednesday fans Unable to ever look forward Always having to look backwards And then complain the club never gets anywhere Only thing we have forward to is another manager and potential relegation. Every owls fan far and wide have an absolute reason to be upset. We look back on the past because the present isnt worth anyone's time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Name one poster who has said that. Number 3582 Strawman argument not that I'm keeping count. We should put 'day out at wembley' and 'losing in a playoff semi final' on our honours board according some of the carlos fanboys in this thread 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Typical Wednesday fans Unable to ever look forward Always having to look backwards And then complain the club never gets anywhere I agree - people have short memories. CC embarrassed us against the pigs, and we looked shot in his last two months. It was inevitable that he went at Christmas as he had lost the players. Just because we beat Arsenal in a 2nd rate cup tie doesn't mean 'he's our best manager for some time'. He had a lot of resources in those first two years and spent it on short-term options. Fair enough, if it had come we would have seen how good he was in the PL, but it didn't primarily because he bottled it against Huddersfield and his training and fitness methods ensured our key players were not match fit at the end. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_ Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 But he was in fact the best manager we've had..... For some time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, Tommo_ said: But he was in fact the best manager we've had..... For some time. ...beacsue of the resources he had. I won't measure him against Monk, but Sturrock, Laws and Grey would possibly have got more with the resources CC had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 32 minutes ago, heppers said: We arguably peaked to early under him. Some great times but the end was dire. I’d love to know the real story. But still way better than where we are now. I doubt we will hit anywhere near that standard for a loooooooong time unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Yes because Carlos wanted Abdi just to never play him. He wanted McGugan who he froze out a month into his contract. Emanuelson, Lachman, Wiggins, Sougou were all world renowned players who Carlos knew about before taking the job. How about Sergiu Bus and Felipe Melo, did Stuart Gray know those players personally? Carlos was head coach. He’s gone on record as saying a lot of the players who joined the club he didn’t actually want. He also went on record as saying there was pressure to play certain players from those above him. Given what we know about DC, this seem entirely plausible. He wasn’t managing the finances. He had a remit to get us promoted. It was Chansiri’s responsibility to manage our finances correctly, spend within our means and run the club in a sustainable manner. What happened to “we have friends” if we fall foul of FFP? The mess we are now lies at one mans door and it certainly isn’t Carlos Carvalhal. 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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