Freshfish Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Francis Jeffers: ...we need a smaller squad that is constantly fit and not on the treatment table ...Dave. No back room staff, no medical staff, small squad, limited budget ...buys Jeffers for £700,000 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: In these uncertain times I'd be surprised if he does sack him and his team, contracts will have to be paid for etc. No quality manager will take on the job so we will be taking another major gamble on a relatively unknown/untried manager. The lure of a big club will always be there though. Whether it’s Pearson, Monk or even Ryan Lowe, these manager types always feel that they will be the one who can turn the ship around. One day, somebody will get this club up off its knees and get it back in the PL.Whoever it is will achieve God-like status in our fan base. Even keeping us up this season will give them huge kudos. So somebody will sign on the dotted line and at the end of the day, they will have a 2-3 year contract which gives them financial security if not job security, something many other people don’t have at this time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Devonstrix said: they will have a 2-3 year contract No they won't Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Devonstrix said: The lure of a big club will always be there though. Whether it’s Pearson, Monk or even Ryan Lowe, these manager types always feel that they will be the one who can turn the ship around. One day, somebody will get this club up off its knees and get it back in the PL.Whoever it is will achieve God-like status in our fan base. Even keeping us up this season will give them huge kudos. So somebody will sign on the dotted line and at the end of the day, they will have a 2-3 year contract which gives them financial security if not job security, something many other people don’t have at this time. Well it won't be Pearson, all others will be a major gamble. We will just be waiting around to sack them soon as we hit a hurdle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Devonstrix said: The lure of a big club will always be there though. Whether it’s Pearson, Monk or even Ryan Lowe, these manager types always feel that they will be the one who can turn the ship around. One day, somebody will get this club up off its knees and get it back in the PL.Whoever it is will achieve God-like status in our fan base. Even keeping us up this season will give them huge kudos. So somebody will sign on the dotted line and at the end of the day, they will have a 2-3 year contract which gives them financial security if not job security, something many other people don’t have at this time. Above should read Pearson, Cook or even Ryan Lowe. For some strange reason, I have Monk invading my waking and sleeping thoughts ATM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Maybe the problem is not as easily solved as many on here think. Yes, Monk should go, and this part is simple. You pay up his contract! But before you do that you have to have several things in place, the first and probably most important, is a Replacement . Easy, peasy! But stop and consider. We are NOT the big club everyone thinks we are. Our results over the last 10 yearsshould tell anyone that. Yes. We are well supported, but how much of that matters on the field? Consider the club from a distant perspective -It is a lowly placed Championship side, with a defecit of 12 points. We have a squad of half-fit players, or so our injury list says. We are not able to splash out on buying a team which is what we want, and we have a Chairman who owns us lock stock and 3 smoking bottles. Which manager is going to take on that except a young, unproven manager. It's certain that no sane , well known manager would take that on. We have a team which, no matter how it is switched, rarely seems to play 100% even for half a game. Step forward the man crazy enough to take that on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Buxtongent said: Maybe the problem is not as easily solved as many on here think. Yes, Monk should go, and this part is simple. You pay up his contract! But before you do that you have to have several things in place, the first and probably most important, is a Replacement . Easy, peasy! But stop and consider. We are NOT the big club everyone thinks we are. Our results over the last 10 yearsshould tell anyone that. Yes. We are well supported, but how much of that matters on the field? Consider the club from a distant perspective -It is a lowly placed Championship side, with a defecit of 12 points. We have a squad of half-fit players, or so our injury list says. We are not able to splash out on buying a team which is what we want, and we have a Chairman who owns us lock stock and 3 smoking bottles. Which manager is going to take on that except a young, unproven manager. It's certain that no sane , well known manager would take that on. We have a team which, no matter how it is switched, rarely seems to play 100% even for half a game. Step forward the man crazy enough to take that on. There will always be one that will take us on hoping to the one who turns us around what we need to relise is thatwe are relegated this season, unless we win the appeal or three other clubs get dedustions as well, so give the new manager a free hit this season and hope a system that the players can play can be put into place ready for next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 To be quite honest, they might as well put ‘Westy’ in interim charge! He couldn’t do any worse than Monk (out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, the third man said: There will always be one that will take us on hoping to the one who turns us around what we need to relise is thatwe are relegated this season, unless we win the appeal or three other clubs get dedustions as well, so give the new manager a free hit this season for a few games and hope a system that the players can play can be put into place ready for next season That's more realistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Flat Owl said: No credible football club chairman would say/do nothing in the next 72 hours. And that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: In these uncertain times I'd be surprised if he does sack him and his team, contracts will have to be paid for etc. No quality manager will take on the job so we will be taking another major gamble on a relatively unknown/untried manager. He might have said to monk...right then 675k per year, 1yr rolling. If i get rid of you, 3-months wages no more. Take it or leave it, monk snatched his hand off.. Though no quality manager would have accepted them terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, sherlyegg said: He might have said to monk...right then 675k per year, 1yr rolling. If i get rid of you, 3-months wages no more. Take it or leave it, monk snatched his hand off.. Though no quality manager would have accepted them terms. Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 It will probably be a “mutual consent” jobbie, where we negotiate a slightly smaller payoff in exchange for Monk not having the stigma of being “sacked”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Pacific said: I've done it.. it is You’ve sacked Monk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Minesapint said: Sorry, but it isn’t. Before there is any announcement there would have to be a discussion with the manager and his advisers. The club would want some safeguards about confidentiality which would involve a negotiation about pay off, as an absolute minimum. They would also need to speak to a temporary replacement assuming they have no one lined up. Takes minutes that stuff. Bullen would step in as usual. Pay off would be in the contract already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Buxtongent said: Maybe the problem is not as easily solved as many on here think. Yes, Monk should go, and this part is simple. You pay up his contract! But before you do that you have to have several things in place, the first and probably most important, is a Replacement . Easy, peasy! But stop and consider. We are NOT the big club everyone thinks we are. Our results over the last 10 yearsshould tell anyone that. Yes. We are well supported, but how much of that matters on the field? Consider the club from a distant perspective -It is a lowly placed Championship side, with a defecit of 12 points. We have a squad of half-fit players, or so our injury list says. We are not able to splash out on buying a team which is what we want, and we have a Chairman who owns us lock stock and 3 smoking bottles. Which manager is going to take on that except a young, unproven manager. It's certain that no sane , well known manager would take that on. We have a team which, no matter how it is switched, rarely seems to play 100% even for half a game. Step forward the man crazy enough to take that on. Why do you need a replacement lined up? When have we done that in the last few appointments? Why keep someone any longer if you have already decided they need to go? Why keep them there so they can do more damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHero Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 7 hours ago, billyblack said: What difference will a week make? Any other season I'd be inclined to agree, but this year it could be 3 points and £7m... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minesapint Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 hours ago, billyblack said: Takes minutes that stuff. Bullen would step in as usual. Pay off would be in the contract already. Assumes 1.DC wants Bullen again 2. It is covered in his contract 3. More likely DC would want to invoke garden leave and reduce compensation 4. Confidentiality clauses cannot always be negotiated in “minutes” Believe me it’s not always simply “that stuff” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 13 hours ago, Minesapint said: Assumes 1.DC wants Bullen again 2. It is covered in his contract 3. More likely DC would want to invoke garden leave and reduce compensation 4. Confidentiality clauses cannot always be negotiated in “minutes” Believe me it’s not always simply “that stuff” Please, give me a break,. how often do you see managers fired straight after a game. Loads. They get fired, things get sorted in the background afterwards. Only reason Monk is still here is because DC doesnt want to sack him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 14 hours ago, Ozymandias Owl said: Any other season I'd be inclined to agree, but this year it could be 3 points and £7m... I agree, so im saying, why wait another week if DC wants to sack him, makes no sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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