parajack Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Monk isnt the problem at S6, look higher up,..yes the manager looks tired to me,and has the same fed up & exasperated look he had last Year,when i believe he was so allegedly ****ed off with the antics of certain players,he didn't in my view allegedly care if he was removed. He isnt on the pitch,making some of the schoolboy errors we have seen(again!!)..& so on......Still time for him to turn this around,but as the OP stated,just too many issues backing up now,making it start to look a massive mountain to climb. SWFC are my Club,and i will always support them,come what may,but this whole saga is putting me off football in general..... Soooooo sick now of the same old,same old.....................IF spectators are ever allowed back into grounds I think the football i will pay to watch,will be one of our local non League teams.(you can go still now,in small numbers) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlsdreamer Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 21 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Paul Cook has never finished any higher than Mid Table Ever Cooke would be just the job then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 For some reason this club is a graveyard for managers. Jewell was a good young manager, was never the same after his short spell here. Turner struggled to get jobs after his time here. He went into the administration side of the game. Megson and Jones have hardly worked since leaving here. When Monk’s time here does come to an end, I think he’ll find himself out of work for at least a year maybe two and might end up starting again abroad? His last two jobs have seen 30% win rates. He’s hardly on an upward curve. As for the next boss, I think Cook will be favourite but I could see Lage being a candidate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Sticky Micky said: Garry Monk handed the gig at Swansea after Laudrup built a quality team and getting them to a cup final and into Europe-monk sacked less than a year later due to poor results Garry Monk appointed Leeds manager, sacked after one season Need 2 wins from the last 10 games to get a playoff place, failed to get in the playoffs Garry Monk, appointed Middlesbrough manager, has one the highest budgets in the league, signs overpayed wasters, finished up midtable Garry Monk appointed Sheffield Wednesday manager, took a team from 3rd last season to a team that currently has 6 wins in nearly a full year, the worst home record since the 1970s and a ppg record only worse than 2 managers ever Yet, Paul Cook is deemed a failure for Wigan chairman getting them relegated, had they not got the 12 point punishment they'd had finished above Wednesday, who again was 3rd at Christmas. Without going through the whole GM history again,Monk wasnt sacked at Leeds(as an example) was offered a further contract,but choose to leave.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatladfromchap Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Paul Cook would not want this job. Monk was probably the only one that did, thats why we have him. No choice but to fasten your seatbelts lads. Scream if you wanna go faster.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 12 hours ago, Errol Flashman said: I don't know owt about the financial side of things so this is a genuine question. Can we even afford to sack Monk and give him a pay off and pay for a new gaffer? If you mean P&S, I don't think managers ect. pay counts towards that. If you mean if chansiri has got the money, well I guess you could try asking the golden Elephants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pussface Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Has he gone yet? Tick tock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, thatladfromchap said: Paul Cook would not want this job. Monk was probably the only one that did, thats why we have him. No choice but to fasten your seatbelts lads. Scream if you wanna go faster.. I think he would. Gary Rowett and McCarthy seemed keen. Also the Cowley brothers supposedly had interest. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Buxtongent said: Avoid the 'big names', and look towards the lower or even non-league clubs for a younger man tryijng to make a name for himself, who knows how to manage men. I wouldn't mind that if we got relegated, but we need a manager who has experience ect. in this league and try and stay up first, then try and build from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arootatat Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Agree totally with Snooty, I gave him the benefit of doubt due to not having his own team of coaches. But it is no better so time to go while we have enough season to get someone in to get us up the table . If the supporters had been in the ground he would have been gone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Hodgyowl said: I've just sent in my CV I'll let you know if I hear anything back Me and @striker have already done that. You could join us if you want? You can be my 3rd assistant manageris the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Sticky Micky said: Garry Monk handed the gig at Swansea after Laudrup built a quality team and getting them to a cup final and into Europe-monk sacked less than a year later due to poor results Garry Monk appointed Leeds manager, sacked after one season Need 2 wins from the last 10 games to get a playoff place, failed to get in the playoffs Garry Monk, appointed Middlesbrough manager, has one the highest budgets in the league, signs overpayed wasters, finished up midtable Garry Monk appointed Sheffield Wednesday manager, took a team from 3rd last season to a team that currently has 6 wins in nearly a full year, the worst home record since the 1970s and a ppg record only worse than 2 managers ever Yet, Paul Cook is deemed a failure for Wigan chairman getting them relegated, had they not got the 12 point punishment they'd had finished above Wednesday, who again was 3rd at Christmas. Just why can't DC see this, I really do wonder if he is bothered anymore. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I looked at manager and coaches on Wednesday night. It so reminded of Jo’s. Nobody giving instructions. Nobody looking even interested. They may as well have ordered a bloody Chinese for all the impact they were having 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109Waddle Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 My biggest footballing fear is that nothing changes and we are embarrassed week in week out again while monk remains in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 53 minutes ago, Plonk said: I looked at manager and coaches on Wednesday night. It so reminded of Jo’s. Nobody giving instructions. Nobody looking even interested. They may as well have ordered a bloody Chinese for all the impact they were having Jos wound me up doing that. Monk kinda does the same. From what I've seen this season Andrew Hughes and Neil Thompson have been more "animated" ect. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Jim said: For some reason this club is a graveyard for managers. Jewell was a good young manager, was never the same after his short spell here. Turner struggled to get jobs after his time here. He went into the administration side of the game. Megson and Jones have hardly worked since leaving here. When Monk’s time here does come to an end, I think he’ll find himself out of work for at least a year maybe two and might end up starting again abroad? His last two jobs have seen 30% win rates. He’s hardly on an upward curve. As for the next boss, I think Cook will be favourite but I could see Lage being a candidate. More to do with us appointing shiite. Add Yorath, Shreeves, Clown, and Jos to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 hours ago, 109Waddle said: My biggest footballing fear is that nothing changes and we are embarrassed week in week out again while monk remains in charge. Just have to hope, that if nothing is done. That no change is made. That we can somehow get back to the sort of levels we showed against Birmingham. I had hoped that that might be the beginnings of something. The shoots of recovery. Of something... But I fear it was a fluke. An anomaly. Even now. Even now I hope I'm wrong and that we can click against Wycombe. But I'm worrying. And I am not normally a worrier. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109Waddle Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Lord Snooty said: Just have to hope, that if nothing is done. That no change is made. That we can somehow get back to the sort of levels we showed against Birmingham. I had hoped that that might be the beginnings of something. The shoots of recovery. Of something... But I fear it was a fluke. An anomaly. Even now. Even now I hope I'm wrong and that we can click against Wycombe. But I'm worrying. And I am not normally a worrier. Yep. The problem is that throughout this year we’ve had those anomalies - Bristol city away, qpr away. We’ve looked great in those games. I just have no faith that monk can get us playing consistently. There is no evidence for this and I don’t think he would still be in charge if it was any other championship club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissmess Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 29/10/2020 at 09:20, @owlstalk said: So get Cook, ask him to hit his own personal world record of a mid table finish, then sack him and find someone else? Do you think he'd come under those conditions? Are you such a good judge of managers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, parajack said: Without going through the whole GM history again,Monk wasnt sacked at Leeds(as an example) was offered a further contract,but choose to leave.... maybe so but that didn't stop the ex owner from wanting the same justice as middlesborough or Brum allegedly Edited October 30, 2020 by trevdi9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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