Time running out for Sheffield Wednesday's under fire manager Garry Monk

[@owlstalk]

8 minutes ago, A47Owl said:

Can you please explain who would be to blame if something went wrong with the OT site? 

 

 

EXACTLY

So you're saying we should join you in hounding Chansiri out?

[@owlstalk]

10 minutes ago, A47Owl said:

Can you publish a copy of the table showing us in 16th place please. 

 

 

 

[Thurcroft owl 72]

3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

Where's he said it's unfair?

In every single interview he's said he fully takes responsibility for everything and understands criticism

I never said he had

[markowl]

3 hours ago, Emilianenko said:

My apologies for my rushed grammer. Just answer the question.

Grammar 

[Inspector Lestrade]

More chance of finding water on the Moon than sacking Monk

[areNOTwhatTHEYseem]

3 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said:

Nope. This season is anomaly, we need the management and players to step up and put that bit extra in. We were promised a dynamic team to be proud of this season. I’ve not seen that so far. 
 

Nothing in our performances which suggests an improvement under Monk. 
 

These are facts. 

 

It's true that we're going to need the management and players to step up and put that bit extra in if we're to overcome the points deduction caused by our chairman's actions, but we're asking the manager to pull off something pretty special to be able to improve on several seasons of mid-table form with a weaker-looking squad.

 

I thought we performed pretty well in the opening few matches of the season, showing good energy and a clear counter-attacking plan. This was particularly encouraging when you consider that several new players were just bedding in.

 

However, our play since Brown got injured has been worryingly short of energy and invention, and we've largely allowed our opponents to play their own style other than in the second half against Brentford. We really need to develop another way of playing if he's going to be out for a while.

[A47Owl]

9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

EXACTLY

So you're saying we should join you in hounding Chansiri out?

Yep and take Monk with him. 

Responsibility starts at the top. 

[A47Owl]

10 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

 

Can you show the heading to the table please. 

[Striggy]

This is the most entertaining thread for ages, long may it continue

[Flat Owl]

I knew it was all false as soon as it stated “the unlucky Monk”....

 

...where words like ‘hapless’ and ‘deranged’ or ‘confused’ would have been much more believable..

[beswetherick]

What’s the name of the intrepid sports reporter who wrote this insightful piece of journalism? Was it Barry Dunk?

[mcmigo]

34 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said:

Nope. This season is anomaly, we need the management and players to step up and put that bit extra in. We were promised a dynamic team to be proud of this season. I’ve not seen that so far. 
 

Nothing in our performances which suggests an improvement under Monk. 
 

These are facts. 

Have we improved?

 

No.  We are in mid table if you remove the points deduction.  We have been in mid table under Carlos, Jos, Bullen ,Bruce and Monk for the last few years.  No matter who the manager, we are ending up in mid table.  We were mid table under Gray before that as welll  The only 2 seasons we bucked the trend we spent so much money we broke FFP.

 

Should we expect to improve?  No.  We have a cheap squad of cast offs, youth players and loan signings.  

 

Will sacking the manager make any difference?  The evidence above - in that we finish mid table unless we spent illegal amounts of money - would suggest not.

 

Will Cameron Dawson putting 'extra' in make him a better goalie? Will Dunkley putting 'extra' in heal his broken bones more quickly?  Will our striker Rhodes find blistering pace by putting 'extra' in?  No.

 

All of the evidence suggests that -no matter who the manager - we will be very close to staying up or will go down by a very narrow margin.  There isnt much point bed wetting expecting much else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[airborne_rat_of_s6]

4 hours ago, @owlstalk said:

Garry Monk's Sheffield Wednesday need an immediate and significant reaction this Wednesday night if they are to try and recover the season and turn around a disastrous run of results including (remarkably) two losses at home in less than a week. 

The Owls face fierce local rivals Rotherham United in a game that could well see former Sheffield Wednesday wonderkid George Hirst net the winning goal that could see Wednesday relegated at the end of this season.

 

BUT many Owls fans have seen the challenge laid out in front of Monk, the lack of real spending by the club on players who have brought in a few new faces but on a shoestring budget (to say the least),  and have been remarkably patient as Monk settles his new Assistant manager, coaching staff and new players into the Hillsborough setup.

There is a growing vocal minority within the fanbase who are running out of patience and who have recently been a bit critical of the unlucky Monk, with some saying he should be doing slightly better despite the obvious points deduction, shoestring budget and with him having three quarters of his first choice players out of action through injury.

Thankfully though it's just a tiny fraction of the devoted Sheffield Wednesday fanbase who are voicing that opinion, as the silent majority understand the situation and who remain right behind the team and what Monk is trying to achieve in a season that all football experts have called 'mission impossible'

Many sports writers will point to the current run of form as disappointing but it also has to be said that in a season where one of the club's major and main signings was a player with a double broken leg, with metal pins in that leg, and somehow was still seen as a top signing by the Owls, it's also clear to anyone that understands football that the experts are right and that Garry Monk should be backed and not turned on by a vocal tiny number of fickle fans.

The experts in football all agree. Garry Monk's task at SWFC is not something they would expect anyone else to take on which begs the question, if the vocal minority get their way at Sheffield Wednesday and hound out one of the unluckiest managers in the club's entire history, who will want to take his place?

The message is very clear from those who really understand football.. "BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR"

Vocal  minority and tiny fraction ! Have you seen the poll on back him or sack him

[Ray Von shabba]

51 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said:

I’d rather have Alan Irvine than Garry Monk. 

oo heck Sal, are we that desperate 

[@owlstalk]

5 minutes ago, mcmigo said:

Have we improved?

 

No.  We are in mid table if you remove the points deduction.  We have been in mid table under Carlos, Jos, Bullen ,Bruce and Monk for the last few years.  No matter who the manager, we are ending up in mid table.  We were mid table under Gray before that as welll  The only 2 seasons we bucked the trend we spent so much money we broke FFP.

 

Should we expect to improve?  No.  We have a cheap squad of cast offs, youth players and loan signings.  

 

Will sacking the manager make any difference?  The evidence above - in that we finish mid table unless we spent illegal amounts of money - would suggest not.

 

Will Cameron Dawson putting 'extra' in make him a better goalie? Will Dunkley putting 'extra' in heal his broken bones more quickly?  Will our striker Rhodes find blistering pace by putting 'extra' in?  No.

 

All of the evidence suggests that -no matter who the manager - we will be very close to staying up or will go down by a very narrow margin.  There isnt much point bed wetting expecting much else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

THIS

I think this is what the sports writer in the OP was alluding to also in their (well written) article 

[cain]

Vocal minority

[Hodgyowl]

4 hours ago, @owlstalk said:

Garry Monk's Sheffield Wednesday need an immediate and significant reaction this Wednesday night if they are to try and recover the season and turn around a disastrous run of results including (remarkably) two losses at home in less than a week. 

The Owls face fierce local rivals Rotherham United in a game that could well see former Sheffield Wednesday wonderkid George Hirst net the winning goal that could see Wednesday relegated at the end of this season.

 

BUT many Owls fans have seen the challenge laid out in front of Monk, the lack of real spending by the club on players who have brought in a few new faces but on a shoestring budget (to say the least),  and have been remarkably patient as Monk settles his new Assistant manager, coaching staff and new players into the Hillsborough setup.

There is a growing vocal minority within the fanbase who are running out of patience and who have recently been a bit critical of the unlucky Monk, with some saying he should be doing slightly better despite the obvious points deduction, shoestring budget and with him having three quarters of his first choice players out of action through injury.

Thankfully though it's just a tiny fraction of the devoted Sheffield Wednesday fanbase who are voicing that opinion, as the silent majority understand the situation and who remain right behind the team and what Monk is trying to achieve in a season that all football experts have called 'mission impossible'

Many sports writers will point to the current run of form as disappointing but it also has to be said that in a season where one of the club's major and main signings was a player with a double broken leg, with metal pins in that leg, and somehow was still seen as a top signing by the Owls, it's also clear to anyone that understands football that the experts are right and that Garry Monk should be backed and not turned on by a vocal tiny number of fickle fans.

The experts in football all agree. Garry Monk's task at SWFC is not something they would expect anyone else to take on which begs the question, if the vocal minority get their way at Sheffield Wednesday and hound out one of the unluckiest managers in the club's entire history, who will want to take his place?

The message is very clear from those who really understand football.. "BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR"

Who wrought that bolax, minority, unlucky ffs

[devonshire owl]

4 hours ago, Lythamowl said:

a tiny fraction of the fan base eh?

 

hmmmm.........

So match day we would get 25000 in the ground.2000 on owlstalk,what do the rest of the fans think about monk?

[SallyCinnamon]

22 minutes ago, mcmigo said:

Have we improved?

 

No.  We are in mid table if you remove the points deduction.  We have been in mid table under Carlos, Jos, Bullen ,Bruce and Monk for the last few years.  No matter who the manager, we are ending up in mid table.  We were mid table under Gray before that as welll  The only 2 seasons we bucked the trend we spent so much money we broke FFP.

 

Should we expect to improve?  No.  We have a cheap squad of cast offs, youth players and loan signings.  

 

Will sacking the manager make any difference?  The evidence above - in that we finish mid table unless we spent illegal amounts of money - would suggest not.

 

Will Cameron Dawson putting 'extra' in make him a better goalie? Will Dunkley putting 'extra' in heal his broken bones more quickly?  Will our striker Rhodes find blistering pace by putting 'extra' in?  No.

 

All of the evidence suggests that -no matter who the manager - we will be very close to staying up or will go down by a very narrow margin.  There isnt much point bed wetting expecting much else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

We are playing worse football now and look less like creating chances than we did under Carlos, Bullen, Bruce, Jos. 
 

Any other manager would be sacked with Monk’s current record. 
 

He should be getting more out of this team, no doubt in my mind. 
 

The stats have been widely posted on this website. He’s at the moment one of the worst performing managers in our history. 
 

Nobody is expecting us to win every game and make the play offs. We want to see a team with a style, identity and a way of playing which fans can get behind.

 

At the moment we don’t have that and we aren’t getting results. The football is dire and he’s on one of the worst runs of forms the club has seen in the 1960s at Hillsborough. 

[sage owl]

4 hours ago, @owlstalk said:

He got them relegated

Then they went into administration

 

You ought to know better than to tell lies on here.