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Garry Monk Comparison Stats @ Hillsborough


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12 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:



They will

 

We've become numb to it all as we're so close to it

 

But look at our squad, look at the player values, the performances, the results


My prediction (and I'm never wrong - I must point that out) is that this squad will really be looked back on as one of the most tragic, ill equipped squads in our lifetime

 

Here's a comparison. 

Sibon, Kuqi, Quinn, and Pressman (although can't really remember what level he was like then) improve us, all the centre backs, centre mids and back ups for every position are better now.

 

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1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

We will look back on this squad as right alongside / worse than that one

 

And yet you've been saying how good many of our recent signings are and how great it is that we've moved away from expensive has beens.

 

A handful of games later and they are suddenly one of the worst squads we've ever had?

 

 

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2 hours ago, Emilianenko said:

Surely nobody can defend those stats. 

He needs time.

He's not bottom on the first one yet.

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Comparing manager stats is utterly ridiculous


Let me give you an example


Big Ron's squad was like driving a Porsche. Made up of quality parts, running smoothly and with excellent components


Monk is currently driving a clapped out Mini Metro


Saying Big Ron won more races in his Porsche so is a better driver than Monk in his Mini Metro is utter farce

Come on people - you're better than this


Use your noggins


 


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1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

Manager comparisons are (and always have been) ridiculous


Not the same players, division, spending power, opposition, coaches etc etc

If you were ever going to compare stats of something that should never be compared  it's managerial statistics


It's a farce and anyone looking at them thinking it tells you anything at all is naive beyond belief

 

If you put up a poll on here asking the question.

 

'Who have been our best and worst managers in the last 50 years.?' 

 

I would guess amongst the leaders in the 'best' poll would include (in no particular order).

 

Atkinson

Charlton

Wilkinson

Carvalhal

 

And the top of the poll for the 'worst' would include:

 

Burtenshaw

Yorath

Shreeve

Eustace

Luhukay

Monk

 

It's no coincidence that those labelled as our best managers are towards the top of that points per game statistics list and those called our 'worst are at the bottom of that list.

 

Ultimately a managers success is always going to be gauged on results. 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Tommy Crawshaw said:

 

If you put up a poll on here asking the question.

 

'Who have been our best and worst managers in the last 50 years.?' 

 

I would guess amongst the leaders in the 'best' poll would include (in no particular order).

 

Atkinson

Charlton

Wilkinson

Carvalhal

 

And the top of the poll for the 'worst' would include:

 

Burtenshaw

Yorath

Shreeve

Eustace

Luhukay

Monk

 

It's no coincidence that those labelled as our best managers are towards the top of that points per game statistics list and those called our 'worst are at the bottom of that list.

 

Ultimately a managers success is always going to be gauged on results. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Comparing manager stats is utterly ridiculous


Let me give you an example


Big Ron's squad was like driving a Porsche. Made up of quality parts, running smoothly and with excellent components


Monk is currently driving a clapped out Mini Metro


Saying Big Ron won more races in his Porsche so is a better driver than Monk in his Mini Metro is utter farce

Come on people - you're better than this


Use your noggins


 


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We don’t really need comparisons to know what an absolute failure Monk has been.

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Checked it out, and #SWFC’s home run at the moment of 11 games in all competitions is their worst Hillsborough form since they went 15 matches without a win across the 1974/75 and 1975/76 seasons under Steve Burtenshaw and Len Ashurst.

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Just now, @owlstalk said:

 

 

 

Comparing manager stats is utterly ridiculous


Let me give you an example


Big Ron's squad was like driving a Porsche. Made up of quality parts, running smoothly and with excellent components


Monk is currently driving a clapped out Mini Metro


Saying Big Ron won more races in his Porsche so is a better driver than Monk in his Mini Metro is utter farce

Come on people - you're better than this


Use your noggins

Didn't Big Ron assemble the quality components though.

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Just now, Emilianenko said:

Didn't Big Ron assemble the quality components though.

 

 

He did - because he was given a formula one budget to work with

Monk's been thrown a spanner and told to build a car using old dustbins and a roof off an old tin shed


 


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1 minute ago, @owlstalk said:


Comparing manager stats is utterly ridiculous


Let me give you an example


Big Ron's squad was like driving a Porsche. Made up of quality parts, running smoothly and with excellent components


Monk is currently driving a clapped out Mini Metro


Saying Big Ron won more races in his Porsche so is a better driver than Monk in his Mini Metro is utter farce

Come on people - you're better than this


Use your noggins

Using your own analogy Monk picked up a decent working motor from Bruce. It went ok for a while then Monk started to tweak it and it started to go badly wrong.

 

Then he bought all his own parts and it drove just as bad as before except maybe it didnt even look as nice as it did.

 

The trend is downwards.

 

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Just now, @owlstalk said:

 

 

He did - because he was given a formula one budget to work with

Monk's been thrown a spanner and told to build a car using old dustbins and a roof off an old tin shed

Big Ron was given a shoestring budget and made the most out of what he already had.

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3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

 

Comparing manager stats is utterly ridiculous


Let me give you an example


Big Ron's squad was like driving a Porsche. Made up of quality parts, running smoothly and with excellent components


Monk is currently driving a clapped out Mini Metro


Saying Big Ron won more races in his Porsche so is a better driver than Monk in his Mini Metro is utter farce

Come on people - you're better than this


Use your noggins

 

It could also be said that it's much harder to be successful in the 1st Division than the 2nd Division.

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Just now, Tommy Crawshaw said:

 

It could also be said that it's much harder to be successful in the 1st Division than the 2nd Division.

 


Precisely why comparing stats of any manager from any time is utterly ridiculous and the stuff of fools


 


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Atkinson built a Porsche with ford parts.

wilko built  a ford with Skoda parts

big jack built a Skoda with dustbin lids.

monk has built a dustbin lid with Ford parts.

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4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Aye...

 

ALREYT!!!

 

 

Turned under performing and underused players  into a great team.

Brought in a free transfer and transformed the way we played.

Palmer , Nilsson Williams, Harkes, Wilson, King,Francis brought in cheaply.

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