@owlstalk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Plonk said: A worse record than butte shame and Jo’s. Just let that sink in. Manager comparisons are (and always have been) ridiculous Not the same players, division, spending power, opposition, coaches etc etc If you were ever going to compare stats of something that should never be compared it's managerial statistics It's a farce and anyone looking at them thinking it tells you anything at all is naive beyond belief Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danblakemore Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 That relegation ... even without points deductions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Manager comparisons are (and always have been) ridiculous Not the same players, division, spending power, opposition, coaches etc etc If you were ever going to compare stats of something that should never be compared it's managerial statistics It's a farce and anyone looking at them thinking it tells you anything at all is naive beyond belief It certainly doesn't tell you everything but that doesn't mean it tells you nothing. It doesn't mean he's 100% the worst manager we've ever had but it's certainly not a good indication to be bottom of these sort of tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Manager comparisons are (and always have been) ridiculous Not the same players, division, spending power, opposition, coaches etc etc If you were ever going to compare stats of something that should never be compared it's managerial statistics It's a farce and anyone looking at them thinking it tells you anything at all is naive beyond belief Niel I know you love monk for some reason. But what are you seeing that makes you think he can turn this round? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Plonk said: Niel I know you love monk for some reason. But what are you seeing that makes you think he can turn this round? My point was nothing to do with Monk and everything to do with pointing out to people to stop, think, and consider these manager stats before blindly following the 'he was better than him then' logic that is flawed beyond belief Same applies to any manager being compared to any other manager using statistics Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, fingyfop said: It certainly doesn't tell you everything but that doesn't mean it tells you nothing. It doesn't mean he's 100% the worst manager we've ever had but it's certainly not a good indication to be bottom of these sort of tables. Again that's a naive view mate It could show (for instance) that our club is absolutely at rock bottom in terms of playing staff at the club You only have to look at the fact we just signed someone with a DOUBLE broken leg and metal pins in his leg ffs If the 'stats' show you anything it could be that Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: My point was nothing to do with Monk and everything to do with pointing out to people to stop, think, and consider these manager stats before blindly following the 'he was better than him then' logic that is flawed beyond belief Same applies to any manager being compared to any other manager using statistics Well swerved. So without the stats quoted. Given around 90 pc of people think he needs to go. Why do you, personally, think he can turn it round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Again that's a naive view mate It could show (for instance) that our club is absolutely at rock bottom in terms of playing staff at the club You only have to look at the fact we just signed someone with a DOUBLE broken leg and metal pins in his leg ffs If the 'stats' show you anything it could be that It could be, but using my naive brain I'd say we had far worse squads in the 70s and early 2000s, Danny Maddix, Ashley Westwood, Jon Beswetherwick, Brian Barryy-Murphy etc, playing at this same level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) Got to go on those stats alone. Horrific Edited October 26, 2020 by BIG D 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, fingyfop said: It could be, but using my naive brain I'd say we had far worse squads in the 70s and early 2000s, Danny Maddix, Ashley Westwood, Jon Beswetherwick, Brian Barryy-Murphy etc, playing at this same level. We will look back on this squad as right alongside / worse than that one Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Plonk said: Well swerved. So without the stats quoted. Given around 90 pc of people think he needs to go. Why do you, personally, think he can turn it round? My point was nothing to do with Monk and everything to do with pointing out to people to stop, think, and consider these manager stats before blindly following the 'he was better than him then' logic that is flawed beyond belief Same applies to any manager being compared to any other manager using statistics Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: My point was nothing to do with Monk and everything to do with pointing out to people to stop, think, and consider these manager stats before blindly following the 'he was better than him then' logic that is flawed beyond belief Same applies to any manager being compared to any other manager using statistics So you can’t then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Plonk said: So you can’t then? My point was nothing to do with Monk Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beighton Owl 87 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: We will look back on this squad as right alongside / worse than that one No way is this squad worse than the 02/03 squad. If that's the case we will be down by Feb.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: We will look back on this squad as right alongside / worse than that one Most of these players have played multiple seasons at Championship clubs, that team from the early 2000's were a different breed of crap entirely, some went to non league after leaving us while still in their prime, none of our seasoned pros are quite that crap this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, fingyfop said: Most of these players have played multiple seasons at Championship clubs, that team from the early 2000's were a different breed of crap entirely, some went to non league after leaving us while still in their prime, none of our seasoned pros are quite that crap this time around. We will look back on this squad as right alongside / worse than that one Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, Beighton Owl 87 said: No way is this squad worse than the 02/03 squad. If that's the case we will be down by Feb.. Have you seen the current league table and the recent run of results? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: We will look back on this squad as right alongside / worse than that one How will we look back on Monk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: My point was nothing to do with Monk Ok I will try and make it a bit easier. You defend monk consistently on here. Why do you think he can turn this round? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Plonk said: Ok I will try and make it a bit easier. You defend monk consistently on here. Why do you think he can turn this round? Eh? Point me to one single time where I've said I think he can turn it round Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now