nort pole owl Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 51 minutes ago, Therealrealist said: Are you allright? Reach is a far better player than Penney..wot a bizzare comment So would u play reach in goals if he's better than dawson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifax Owls Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, teddybeararmy said: I'd take a trier like Penney over a faker like reach every day of the week. I agree. Reach will be a fantastic footballer with the cones and bibs but he’s a total cat on the pitch where it counts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifax Owls Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Halifax Owls said: I agree. Reach will be a fantastic footballer with the cones and bibs but he’s a total cat on the pitch where it counts. Cat = pu $$ y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Therealrealist said: What as Penney ever done in a wednesday shirt? Is it cus he’s ‘one of our own’ that people want him in the team? Nope it’s coz he looks like if given a run in the side he could develop into a good footballer. Likes to stop the cross and always has looked a competent left back in his two albeit short spells with us. Looks to have a good delivery and likes to overlap. Haven’t had a fullback like that since Pudil. Monk doesn’t like footballers. He likes pace strength and effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwellOwl Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Penney deserves a chance, our delivery can’t be any worse.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 39 minutes ago, SwellOwl said: Penney deserves a chance, our delivery can’t be any worse.. The answer is in front of our eyes. v QPR Monk finally played Reach left, Harris right - Reach crossed for our goal. v Brum he played Reach left, Harris right - Harris crossed for our goal. v Brentford he decided to revert back to play them on their wrong foot again. Would you play Penney RWB? Of course not. It would be stupid. But that’s how he uses Reach and Harris. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I don’t get this love in with Matt Penney. I see a player who runs about a lot but whose crossing is generally poor and who has poor positional sense. He played well against League 2 Walsall but was poor in the league games. I know Reach isn’t exactly amazing but his crossing ability is miles better than Penney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 16 hours ago, Holmowl said: Because Reach is presently twice the player that Penney is. Penney might come good, but right now he’s nowhere near being a good Championship player. Reach ain't twice the player of anyone I'm afraid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 11 hours ago, Dutch McLovin said: Monk doesn’t like footballers. He likes pace strength and effort. The two aren't mutually exclusive, and when you're dealing with the standard of player we are when discussing Matt Penney, the latter are always going to be paramount, as he's hardly the most gifted of footballers, is he? Hopefully he'll develop a bit, work on his crossing and positioning, and we'll have a footballer who also offers some pace and effort on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Holmowl said: The answer is in front of our eyes. v QPR Monk finally played Reach left, Harris right - Reach crossed for our goal. v Brum he played Reach left, Harris right - Harris crossed for our goal. v Brentford he decided to revert back to play them on their wrong foot again. Would you play Penney RWB? Of course not. It would be stupid. But that’s how he uses Reach and Harris. 21 minutes ago, Kagoshimaowl said: I don’t get this love in with Matt Penney. I see a player who runs about a lot but whose crossing is generally poor and who has poor positional sense. He played well against League 2 Walsall but was poor in the league games. I know Reach isn’t exactly amazing but his crossing ability is miles better than Penney. 100 x both of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 14 hours ago, Therealrealist said: What as Penney ever done in a wednesday shirt? Is it cus he’s ‘one of our own’ that people want him in the team? Looked good as a wingback when he first broke through before jos played him everywhere. He's a tad quicker than reach, can't beat his man which reach very rarely does and is a better defender. Reach has 4/5 years experience on the lad, but he needs games to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetherivelinowl Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Reach should play left wingback in every game unless we need him in centre-mid due to injuries (often likely). In those circumstances, Penney should fill-in at wing-back. I've more confidence in Penney than any of the other youngsters but imo he's no more than a useful back-up for Reach. I spotted a couple of comments on here that Penney 'can't cross'. That's bizarre because in theory his greatest asset is his ability to strike the ball beautifully with his left foot. He's terrific at free-kicks and corners and has occasionally put in a peach of a cross with great 'shape' on it. But it's true that many of his crosses are rubbish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nort pole owl Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 31 minutes ago, davetherivelinowl said: Reach should play left wingback in every game unless we need him in centre-mid due to injuries (often likely). In those circumstances, Penney should fill-in at wing-back. I've more confidence in Penney than any of the other youngsters but imo he's no more than a useful back-up for Reach. I spotted a couple of comments on here that Penney 'can't cross'. That's bizarre because in theory his greatest asset is his ability to strike the ball beautifully with his left foot. He's terrific at free-kicks and corners and has occasionally put in a peach of a cross with great 'shape' on it. But it's true that many of his crosses are rubbish. So coming of the bench for 15 to 20 mins as a replacement for reach I can accept but he's not on the bench or not being used anymore which will hit hes morale he's needs to be care for plus a arm around the shoulder when he's not going well..... But he can play attacking minded player which we as fans should support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, davetherivelinowl said: Reach should play left wingback in every game unless we need him in centre-mid due to injuries (often likely). In those circumstances, Penney should fill-in at wing-back. I've more confidence in Penney than any of the other youngsters but imo he's no more than a useful back-up for Reach. I spotted a couple of comments on here that Penney 'can't cross'. That's bizarre because in theory his greatest asset is his ability to strike the ball beautifully with his left foot. He's terrific at free-kicks and corners and has occasionally put in a peach of a cross with great 'shape' on it. But it's true that many of his crosses are rubbish. Couldn’t agree more. My choice of WBs:- Left - Reach then Penney Right - Harris, then Moses, then Palmer I actually think WB is in pretty good shape, so long as Monk stops inverting them! Edited October 26, 2020 by Holmowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nort pole owl Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Holmowl said: Couldn’t agree more. My choice of WBs:- Left - Reach then Penney Right - Harris, then Moses, then Palmer I actually think WB is in pretty good shape, so long as Monk stops inverting them! Reach is grand but no pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, nort pole owl said: So coming of the bench for 15 to 20 mins as a replacement for reach I can accept but he's not on the bench or not being used anymore which will hit hes morale he's needs to be care for plus a arm around the shoulder when he's not going well..... But he can play attacking minded player which we as fans should support Yep agreed. Penney on the bench as backup/competitor to Reach on the left seems ideal to me. Likewise, Moses or Palmer as back-up/competitor for Harris on the right. Sadly it’s not us fans that need convincing, it’s our leader. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nort pole owl Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Yep agreed. Penney on the bench as backup/competitor to Reach on the left seems ideal to me. Likewise, Moses or Palmer as back-up/competitor for Harris on the right. Sadly it’s not us fans that need convincing, it’s our leader. Were all ******** of pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincowl Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 22 hours ago, nort pole owl said: So playing with wing backs you play Liam palmer instead? Like Bristol away Yes Palmer is much better defensively. Penney got torn apart by Lincoln City in a pre season game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 13 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: The two aren't mutually exclusive, and when you're dealing with the standard of player we are when discussing Matt Penney, the latter are always going to be paramount, as he's hardly the most gifted of footballers, is he? Hopefully he'll develop a bit, work on his crossing and positioning, and we'll have a footballer who also offers some pace and effort on our hands. Depends what you look at. He has had limited game time but in the times when he has had 2/3 games in a row at lb or lwb then he has shown for me enough to suggest he would be good given a further run. But he looks unwilling to ply the percentages he always looks to pass and move. Monk doesn’t like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 On 25/10/2020 at 14:56, nort pole owl said: Have we falling out with another player who can play ball..... Shame on you matt for getting man of the match coming on as a sub your showing us up On 25/10/2020 at 15:39, nort pole owl said: So playing with wing backs you play Liam palmer instead? Like Bristol away On 25/10/2020 at 16:32, nort pole owl said: U need pace to play 352 formation which we played before all the injuries so why play Liam palmer and Adam reach ahead of matt penny it's wrong on penney he's young and hungry but alot is wrong with this club.... Were negative that why he doesn't play plus no proper club has a cf taking throw ins On 25/10/2020 at 16:34, nort pole owl said: Plus he scored in recent under 23game but that be something too good to do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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