spiderman Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I have thought this for a while now, how about trying Iorfa in a similar position as to where carlton used to play? he is athletic enough to get forward to help the strikers and also to track back and do his defensive duties, i just reckon he could be the energy in the midfield area that we are lacking. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I’d rather we just play players in their actual positions and see how that goes first 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evaowl Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Iorfa needs to concentrate on becoming a consistent centre half. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 In football centre backs with the traits Iorfa has are very very rare. Big, strong, athletic, rapid and young. He's a potential multimillion pound defender in the making and if he played for Brentford would probably be getting eyed up for a huge move. Sure he's still got to learn some things but that's what coaching is for. He is a rare asset and we need to play him alongside players like Flint so he can learn. He could single handedly solve our finances in a year to 18 months. Keep him at CB. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, McRightSide said: I’d rather we just play players in their actual positions and see how that goes first Way too radical, will never catch on at Hillsborough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 But does he smoke Marijuana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Iorfa is our best defender and the one with the biggest resale value, he's the one that mops up at the back with his pace. Luongo is our best defensive midfielder. Our weaknesses are exasperated by how we set up, which doesn't suit our squad and our ultra defensive style even at home. We should have brought in players to suit how we set up and it was a mistake not to have brought in another defensive midfielder. Without bringing in another one in, I'd switch Paterson back into midfield, where he played at times for Cardiff. He could give us the physicality and work rate in midfield we lack without Luongo? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, The Night-Owl said: Without bringing in another one in, I'd switch Paterson back into midfield, where he played at times for Cardiff. He could give us the physicality and work rate in midfield we lack without Luongo? I agree with this until Luongo comes back. Get Penney in too. Go out on the front foot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardo Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Something has to change to give us that spark and a constant threat.... currently we are very poor. We need a Warhurst type tactical change, if that is Iorfa then I’m in..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEdwards Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 FDB is the answer 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Calx Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 He can't do any worse than Pelupessy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Anything is worth a try if it means Pelupessy not playing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 We need somebody in the middle who has power strength and presence. Said this in another thread. Don’t think big Dom is the man though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Obviously I'm too young to remember Palmer but my impression is that he was a ball winner with his long legs making him good at getting a foot in which is where the iorfa comparison is drawn from. Nowadays this position doesn't really exist as tackling is out of fashion, it's about blocking channels as a holding midfielder. If he were around today they would probably want Palmer at CB. So moving Iorfa to midfield is a no go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 12 hours ago, edwinowl said: We need somebody in the middle who has power strength and presence. Said this in another thread. Don’t think big Dom is the man though. I'd play Paterson in midfield. He's been effective playing there for Cardiff. He has the physicality and work rate, that we lack without Luongo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 20 hours ago, spiderman said: I have thought this for a while now, how about trying Iorfa in a similar position as to where carlton used to play? he is athletic enough to get forward to help the strikers and also to track back and do his defensive duties, i just reckon he could be the energy in the midfield area that we are lacking. Got to give it a go,problem is hesour best defender,in a shaky back 3..maybe palmer or Paterson in the middle for some strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 20 hours ago, spiderman said: I have thought this for a while now, how about trying Iorfa in a similar position as to where carlton used to play? he is athletic enough to get forward to help the strikers and also to track back and do his defensive duties, i just reckon he could be the energy in the midfield area that we are lacking. Said exactly the same the first time I saw him play. Dom would offer hundred time more in the middle compared to JP..... Mind you so would most players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetherivelinowl Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I 'm wary whenever people talk about playing centre-halves in midfield. Van Aken? Iorfa? It's not just about running around a lot and getting tackles in or being able to pass the ball 40 yards. So much of midfield play is about 'having eyes in the back of your head' - being able to think quickly enough about the right thing to do every time the ball is coming your way, the speed of thought to keep out of trouble and play the right pass. I don't think Iorfa or Van Aken have that kind of quick-thinking. Iorfa strikes me as being able to do obvious things really well (head it, kick it, block it) but not so good when he has to think about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetherivelinowl Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 to continue.. In fact of our stock of central defenders the one who strikes me as having the sharpest footballing brain in terms of how to work the ball is actually Borner. I've often thought that the way he plays forward and joins in with others is more like a midfield player. Not that I'm recommending him for the role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 49 minutes ago, davetherivelinowl said: I 'm wary whenever people talk about playing centre-halves in midfield. Van Aken? Iorfa? It's not just about running around a lot and getting tackles in or being able to pass the ball 40 yards. So much of midfield play is about 'having eyes in the back of your head' - being able to think quickly enough about the right thing to do every time the ball is coming your way, the speed of thought to keep out of trouble and play the right pass. I don't think Iorfa or Van Aken have that kind of quick-thinking. Iorfa strikes me as being able to do obvious things really well (head it, kick it, block it) but not so good when he has to think about it. Iorfa makes a lot of mistakes but his pace gets him out of it..Borner justmakes slot of mistakes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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