Popular Post TrickyTrev Posted October 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, Johnny Concrete said: Top post Trev. Totally agree, as I said earlier in the match day thread, the problems on the field are just the tip of the iceberg in what is a huge mess for this club. Chansiri is responsible for that. The thing is, those first 2 seasons I fell for all the talk about us fans having to pay more to have a side challenging for promotion, I even defended the pricing structure which on reflection has been a complete disaster. But as talk of us being in the Premier League for our 150th birthday switched to “I put money into the club to keep us in the division” (or something along those lines), as we stumbled from embargo to embargo, as the calibre of players we were signing started to fall but the prices remained sky high, as we sold our stadium and then still got whacked with a 12 point deduction, it’s become more and more apparent that the club is in a complete mess. Give me Milan Mandaric, Stuart Gray and the squad we had before all the “big names” came to the club ahead of the current garbage we are having to endure every day of the week. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Sheff44 said: The predicament we are in is mostly down to the naive chairman/ owner we have. He doesn't know anything much about running a football club potentially sending a once famous/semi successful club backwards again. The sooner he's gone and sells the better. Brentford were a lot better than us quality/ technically the other night, why are they better than us ? We were once a big club, Brentford, Luton never have been. God bless ya, when covids gone, and the fans return, u all deserve a medal paying those prices and watching that quality of football. Chansiri's downfall was not appointing an experienced DOF the day he bought the club. Done one like Howard Wilkinson to run the club and advise him. That has been a very costly mistake for DC. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Honestly I defended Chansiri for the longest time, because I believe he does have the best interests of the the club at heart, but honestly, when he appointed Monk I found I couldn't defend him any longer, theres only so much even I can defend.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Only Wednesday could take the turgid football of Manderic and Gray, get millions of pounds to spend, and end up with what we saw today. Sadly for us it’s hilarious if you support another team. Can’t see anyone wanting to buy us now so unless Chansiri suddenly wakes up and cares we are in for a very painful few years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybeeowl Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 35 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: Our problems are entirely down to him. He’s the one who has lumbered us with a 12 point deduction, a points deduction that has put players off signing for us which has made our task all the more harder (like it wasn’t hard enough already!!). And the thing is it was all so avoidable. Reading the report from our hearing it’s clear the EFL tried to hold our hand through the whole FFP mess when we were on the brink of it and we STILL managed to mess it up. Numerous players signed for large transfer fees and almost all leaving the club for free, this summer you’ll be able to add Reach and Rhodes to that list. Away from the whole point deduction and FFP mess that he’s got us into (and will probably see us relegated) he’s also priced so many fans out of following the club with ridiculously high ticket prices, shirt prices have also rocketed and the justification for all of this was the continued investment into the side.... continued investment that saw a starting 11 today with Van Aken, Odubajo and Pelupessey all in the starting line up. In fact, I’d take the side Stuart Gray had over this side every day of the week. This club after 2 decent seasons (which we are still paying for) has gone backwards since Chansiri came to the club and his failure will be complete when we are lining up in the third division next season. How utterly depressing. this is spot on. Of course fans will argue about the managerial appointments but, as has been said, on paper they are all reasonable appointments. the problems go way deeper than the managers and players though. The blame lies squarely at the chairman's door. Managers can never be wholly responsible for winning, or costing 12 crucial points. Only a chairman can do that. More specifically, only our chairman. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaybeeowl said: this is spot on. Of course fans will argue about the managerial appointments but, as has been said, on paper they are all reasonable appointments. the problems go way deeper than the managers and players though. The blame lies squarely at the chairman's door. Managers can never be wholly responsible for winning, or costing 12 crucial points. Only a chairman can do that. More specifically, only our chairman. Tp be fair, even without the 12 point deduction, Monk will probably take us down. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybeeowl Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, marcx666 said: Tp be fair, even without the 12 point deduction, Monk will probably take us down. you're allowing Monk to be the scapegoat when Chansiri is to blame. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owler66 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 58 minutes ago, zzmdu said: DC recruiting poor managers is a myth, with zero weeks notice Monk was an ok appointment, it's difficult to argue that Carlos wasn't a success. Bruce was the best appointment possible, but got poached by him hometown Premier League club. Only Jos's appointment was a bad one, & he had decent pedigree. Chansiri appointing poor managers does not stand up Oh yes it does and i include Carlos in that a proper proven manager who knew the championship with the money we were spending then would've got us in the premier league 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaybeeowl said: you're allowing Monk to be the scapegoat when Chansiri is to blame. Unless Chansiri picks the team, the tactics, the formations, the backroom staff, then Monk shoulders some of the blame, same as Jos, same as Judas Bruce, same as Carlos etc etc. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 47 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: Our problems are entirely down to him. He’s the one who has lumbered us with a 12 point deduction, a points deduction that has put players off signing for us which has made our task all the more harder (like it wasn’t hard enough already!!). And the thing is it was all so avoidable. Reading the report from our hearing it’s clear the EFL tried to hold our hand through the whole FFP mess when we were on the brink of it and we STILL managed to mess it up. Numerous players signed for large transfer fees and almost all leaving the club for free, this summer you’ll be able to add Reach and Rhodes to that list. Away from the whole point deduction and FFP mess that he’s got us into (and will probably see us relegated) he’s also priced so many fans out of following the club with ridiculously high ticket prices, shirt prices have also rocketed and the justification for all of this was the continued investment into the side.... continued investment that saw a starting 11 today with Van Aken, Odubajo and Pelupessey all in the starting line up. In fact, I’d take the side Stuart Gray had over this side every day of the week. This club after 2 decent seasons (which we are still paying for) has gone backwards since Chansiri came to the club and his failure will be complete when we are lining up in the third division next season. How utterly depressing. Spot-on assessment of Chansiri’s tenure of the club. An avoidable disaster. Although we’re not dead yet. We’re certainly one of the favourites for the drop but it’s not nailed on. We were effective at Brum last week so there is hope. It always seems worse after a defeat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Nagasaki Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 53 minutes ago, zzmdu said: DC recruiting poor managers is a myth, with zero weeks notice Monk was an ok appointment, it's difficult to argue that Carlos wasn't a success. Bruce was the best appointment possible, but got poached by him hometown Premier League club. Only Jos's appointment was a bad one, & he had decent pedigree. Chansiri appointing poor managers does not stand up Sorry bud but how was Monks appointment due to zero weeks notice. We went weeks after Bruce left before his appointment Carlos’ success was a result of the foundations put together by Gray and money getting thrown around. Bruce was a great appointment but we all slagged Gullit and Murphy for laughing cos they felt he had us over a barrel and that ended well. Jos acted too quickly to turn things around but we don’t t know if that was his remit. DOF or someone advising Chansiri with Wednesday and football experience is a must. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, marcx666 said: Tp be fair, even without the 12 point deduction, Monk will probably take us down. Based on the league table we’d be out of the bottom 3 if it wasn’t for the deduction. There’s some proper dross is this league this season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybeeowl Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, marcx666 said: Unless Chansiri picks the team, the tactics, the formations, the backroom staff, then Monk shoulders some of the blame, same as Jos, same as Judas Bruce, same as Carlos etc etc. Without the 12 point deduction we would find ourselves in lower mid table tonight. Looking at the car crash Chansiri has left our finances in, and I include the disastrous and morally reprehensible ticket prices in this, that is exactly where a team of our abilities would be expected to be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deepcar_lights Posted October 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2020 A calamity of the highest order. Just look around. Start with the badge and work your way back - shambles. Im surprised we aren't more hacked off. Where are the standards at the moment? Talk about a low bar. We are very loyal customers indeed. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Concrete Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 36 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: The thing is, those first 2 seasons I fell for all the talk about us fans having to pay more to have a side challenging for promotion, I even defended the pricing structure which on reflection has been a complete disaster. But as talk of us being in the Premier League for our 150th birthday switched to “I put money into the club to keep us in the division” (or something along those lines), as we stumbled from embargo to embargo, as the calibre of players we were signing started to fall but the prices remained sky high, as we sold our stadium and then still got whacked with a 12 point deduction, it’s become more and more apparent that the club is in a complete mess. Give me Milan Mandaric, Stuart Gray and the squad we had before all the “big names” came to the club ahead of the current garbage we are having to endure every day of the week. To be fair mate I think its safe to say most Wednesday fans bought into the whole way the club ran simply because we were blinded by the fact it was a complete new chapter in the clubs history especially that first season, for once the club seemed to have the higher financial strength of the division, not scraping around for the bottom of barell signings but actually signing/linked with better calibre of players, a foreign manager for the first time in our history. All this and really the "success" on the pitch was simply masking over the sh!tshow behind the scenes 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybeeowl Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheOwlsofDodworth said: Just look around. Start with the badge and work your way back - shambles. That's it! The whole sorry mess in 13 words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlmanc Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 45 minutes ago, marcx666 said: Honestly I defended Chansiri for the longest time, because I believe he does have the best interests of the the club at heart, but honestly, when he appointed Monk I found I couldn't defend him any longer, theres only so much even I can defend.... You’ve done more defending than van aken ever has 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 The worst of it could yet be to come. For whatever reason the loyal season ticket holders get no refund for the season and a half they pay for and miss , and a large number of them dissappear. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hasthagotanycheese Posted October 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2020 I honestly think that when the history of the club is written that Chansiri will go down as an even bigger villain than either Dave Richards & Dave Allen. The utter incompetence shown by the present regime is simply mind boggling. The amounts of money wasted for so little results is abhorrent. It will take many years for the club to recover from the mismanagement of the last 5 years and the sooner he packs up and phecks back off to Thailand the better. All this baloney about us being a family has left high earners locked into long term expensive contracts heamorragging money as well as awful managerial appointments, its the perfect storm of toxicity that is taking us one way and thats downwards. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 He can make it better by sacking this charlatan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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