FreshOwl Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 OMG, TONEY IS NOT TALL, I REPEAT, IVAN TONEY IS NOT TALL HE IS 178cm 178CM = 5 FOOT 10 5 FOOT 10 IS AVERAGE HEIGHT TONEY IS NOT TALL, FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sticky Micky said: Injuries don't stop defensive responsibility It thought Lees was easy to get past til I saw moses The blokes a car crash He started sprouting **** on tw@tter about how fans negativaty in the stadium was causing him and his teammates performances to suffer Well no fans for 6 months and his performances continue to be well below average, so what's the excuse now? Face it, he is a very average defender who has no place in this team never mind playing cb, a position he has never played Monk and moses have to take responsibility for his car crash efforts You seem quite angry about this for some reason. I agree, Odubajo is now an average defender. Once we have our first choice defenders back, I imagine he'll be back on the bench. For now, it's probably a matter of needs must while we endure the latest injury crisis. Interesting aside: it turns out Bruce once played Odubajo as a central defender against Man City. They kept it down to 4-1, at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Toney = 1.79m tall Odubajo = 1.78m tall Yeah can't see any reason why Odubajo was marking him... Such a dumb thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Wicket Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 At the time I just thought Toney out muscled him. Odubajo was not strong enough. After watching it again nothings changed my mind. How tall they are was not the problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: He was great that season for Hull, which probably explains why Bruce brought him here. It seems that his injury has really affected him, though. Whether we ever see the best of him in a Wednesday shirt remains to be seen, but it's looking unlikely at this point. Having said that, I do think some of the criticism of him is way wide of the mark. He's regularly singled out for criticism by some on here, despite having a reasonable game for what he is: a backup squad option. I think he was a disaster waiting to happen for much of his first season but this season I think the criticism is wide of the mark. He's been much better, last Saturday he was very good. Overall he has been worth his place in the team. I'm hoping he will go from strength to strength and show us just how good he can be. Any criticism of his failure to deal with Toney at corners yesterday should be directed at the coaching team. He should never have been expected to cope with a striker of that quality. I know he is a favourite boo boy for a lot of fans, I'd just ask them to look at each game he plays and judge on that, not on last seasons performances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Jakes Grandad said: At the time I just thought Toney out muscled him. Odubajo was not strong enough. After watching it again nothings changed my mind. How tall they are was not the problem. It was a really good header to be fair 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: You seem quite angry about this for some reason. I agree, Odubajo is now an average defender. Once we have our first choice defenders back, I imagine he'll be back on the bench. For now, it's probably a matter of needs must while we endure the latest injury crisis. Interesting aside: it turns out Bruce once played Odubajo as a central defender against Man City. They kept it down to 4-1, at least! I'm angry when a manager plays a wingback at cb when a perfectly suitable cb is sat on the bench Wasn't that long ago monk said moses was not his plans Square pegs in round holes Makes zero sense, so yes I'm angry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sticky Micky said: I'm angry when a manager plays a wingback at cb when a perfectly suitable cb is sat on the bench Wasn't that long ago monk said moses was not his plans Square pegs in round holes Makes zero sense, so yes I'm angry Fair enough. As I said earlier, I can see the logic of using Odubajo's pace against Brentford's fast and skilful attack, rather than the slower and more cumbersome Börner. I suspect whichever one had played, they'd have exposed their weakness at some point. During open play, Odubajo did okay. Unfortunately, he got exposed from their corner. We'll never know of course, but Börner may not have fared any better over the 90 minutes. We'll always have different opinions on here, which is what makes for a discussion forum, but I can see the logic in what we went with, so I'm not angry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 More weak defending from Moses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Paul.. said: Toney = 1.79m tall Odubajo = 1.78m tall Yeah can't see any reason why Odubajo was marking him... Such a dumb thread! Because Toney is their main threat in the box nothing to do with height............dumb thread??....why reply....goodnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spondon Owl Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Weak defending by our worst at defending defender shocker. He's cack. I absolutely poop my pants every time I see his name on the team sheet. Its either 1 goal or a penalty a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otley Owl Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Sticky Micky said: Injuries don't stop defensive responsibility It thought Lees was easy to get past til I saw moses The blokes a car crash He started sprouting **** on tw@tter about how fans negativaty in the stadium was causing him and his teammates performances to suffer Well no fans for 6 months and his performances continue to be well below average, so what's the excuse now? Face it, he is a very average defender who has no place in this team never mind playing cb, a position he has never played Monk and moses have to take responsibility for his car crash efforts Where the eff is the neg button? I hardly ever used it, maybe twice, but... blimey! Injuries don't stop defensive responsibility Eh? It thought Lees was easy to get past til I saw moses Bizarre The blokes a car crash Not really. He started sprouting **** on tw@tter about how fans negativaty in the stadium was causing him and his teammates performances to suffer No. He. didn't. Well no fans for 6 months and his performances continue to be well below average, so what's the excuse now? A half reasonable question. Face it, he is a very average defender who has no place in this team never mind playing cb, a position he has never played Monk and moses have to take responsibility for his car crash efforts To be fair, worth talking about. Maybe not a neg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurcroft owl 72 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I am not a football coach but it seems to me putting our worst defender against the opponents best attacker is not very wise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 12 hours ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: Yes I'm afraid ours is tactically inept. Agree He got schooled again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 so if its poor defending from odabajo for not heading the ball would it be poor attacking from toney if he had .......2 players go for a 50/50 ball one is going to be the winner sadly it wasnt odabajo on this occasion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 15 hours ago, gurujuan said: I guess, as one of the centre backs, that was his job. Our other two centre backs, appeared to be marking their defenders who had come up for the corner (where was Paterson) The real question is, why was Odubajo playing at centre back, not least when we had Palmer and Borner, both better defenders, available Agree,pointless pointing to one player,but i never feel comfortable myself when he is playing...prefer Borner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Thurcroft owl 72 said: I am not a football coach but it seems to me putting our worst defender against the opponents best attacker is not very wise. Who should mark their centre backs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash77 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Its monks fault imo, cant ask a smaller and much weaker player to deal with their main goal threat at set pieces. This is a common theme too, moses marked a bigger/stronger player vs qpr and nearly cost a pen as he couldnt handle him, we got away with it, the warning was there. Again its just not very bright management and it cost another point added to the dozens lost from late goals. Not moses' fault, not a cb, silly to pretend he can perform all of that role like iorfa naturally does, bar offering pace. Perhaps not very bright either to insist on 3 cbs when not having the personnel and then leaving a proper cb on bench too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurcroft owl 72 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Paul.. said: Who should mark their centre backs? Someone else. Its like greg fee marking ronaldo. I'm not saying moses is a bad player but he is a terrible defender. Its fairly common that when he plays he gives a goal away.( or at least some part of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 19 hours ago, spiderman said: Because Toney is their main threat in the box nothing to do with height............dumb thread??....why reply....goodnight. Your original post refers to height , “Big for big” with Flint. Take the loss and move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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