Bulldog Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Headlines from last nights game, Had chances. Unlucky. Better team for..... (insert minutes here) Injuries - if so and so had played we'd have won that. Questionable tactics / substitutions. Give him time. Lost to a good team. All of the above applies to most home games recently. The form guide for 2020 home games reads; P15 W1 D5 L9 When we have 5 points from the next 3 games do we start to panic or give the management team more time? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bulldog said: When we have 5 points from the next 3 games do we start to panic or give the management team more time? Easy. We give them more time. 5 points from the next 3 would be OK. That would give us 9 points out of a possible 18, which isn't that bad. 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 We currently have mid table form. It comes a no shock. Our last 3 seasons we have been mid table. Our squad budget I suspect is about mid table. Our manager has a great record of mid table form in the Championship and Premier League. We will almost certainly finish mid table, minus 12 points. If we go down, it isnt down to our mid table playing staff. It because of the 12 point deduction. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Roy Of The Roasters said: Easy. We give them more time. 5 points from the next 3 would be OK. That would give us 9 points out of a possible 18, which isn't that bad. Lets have it right, we should be winning all 3 against Luton wycombe and Rotherham and I think we will get more than 5 points on the basis of what I’ve seen from the team so far this season. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 We just lost to arguably best side in the league and give them a game .people need to relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sefton owl said: Lets have it right, we should be winning all 3 against Luton wycombe and Rotherham and I think we will get more than 5 points on the basis of what I’ve seen from the team so far this season. Why should we? Maybe it’s this billy big swollecks attitude that causes so much of our problem. I hope the players arn’t as complacent as this comment. Every game in this league is a battle, no team has a Devine right to turn up and win. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said: Yes because they wouldn't want to deprive you of your weekly chance to slag the club, players, manager and chairman. Have I missed anyone out? I don't have time to come on here every week. I've never slagged the chairman off as I have no issues with him. I've never slagged the players off...well maybe Rhodes I'll concede that one As for our manager, Meh! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, Sefton owl said: Lets have it right, we should be winning all 3 against Luton wycombe and Rotherham and I think we will get more than 5 points on the basis of what I’ve seen from the team so far this season. We won't win all 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 28 minutes ago, Sefton owl said: Lets have it right, we should be winning all 3 against Luton wycombe and Rotherham and I think we will get more than 5 points on the basis of what I’ve seen from the team so far this season. I'm not sure "should" is appropriate. Luton and Rotherham will not be pushovers, and will want the points as much as we do. However, like yourself I've seen enough to believe we "could" take 9 points. It's not entirely improbable. But 5 points is my benchmark. 6 or more and I'll be pleased. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 If we get 5 points from the next 3 games, then we'll have 13 points from our opening 9 matches, which is 1.44 points per game. Over the course of a full season, that would see us gain 66 points, which should be more than enough to stay up, even once you deduct 12 points to leave us on 54. Why would we panic about that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 15 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: If we get 5 points from the next 3 games, then we'll have 13 points from our opening 9 matches, which is 1.44 points per game. Over the course of a full season, that would see us gain 66 points, which should be more than enough to stay up, even once you deduct 12 points to leave us on 54. Why would we panic about that? I agree with your statistics. 5 points from the next 3 is about where we are but that has the table showing us with 1 point from 9 games In effect we then have to win every other game of the remaining 37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I said at the start of the season Monk has 10 games to get positive or he should be gone, End of November needs to be out of bottom 3 or he should be gone. Reason is simple we have 8 games in December and if the teams struggling a new manager bounce could get us well and truly out of the bottom 3. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 16 hours ago, mcmigo said: We currently have mid table form. It comes a no shock. Our last 3 seasons we have been mid table. Our squad budget I suspect is about mid table. Our manager has a great record of mid table form in the Championship and Premier League. We will almost certainly finish mid table, minus 12 points. If we go down, it isnt down to our mid table playing staff. It because of the 12 point deduction. Exactly. Which is why we need a manager capable of getting better results than you would expect with players at his disposal. Like Gray did here, or Colin did at Rotherham. If Sheffield United had got the results you'd expect from their players, they'd never have got out of the Championship. In fact, it's debatable if they'd have got out of the Third. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 5 points from next 3 games means we wouldn't lose any of them. That's not how Wednesday do things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 What if we lose all three. Then I think it will be time to panic. Is a win and two draws acceptable? I would say absolute minimum we should accept. Anything less and the chairman has to have a long hard look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 7 points from the next 9 would be a good return. Any less imo would be disappointing. Teams like Brentford I don’t expect us to beat, but Luton, Rotherham and Wycombe are teams we should have enough quality to get the points imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: Exactly. Which is why we need a manager capable of getting better results than you would expect with players at his disposal. Like Gray did here, or Colin did at Rotherham. If Sheffield United had got the results you'd expect from their players, they'd never have got out of the Championship. In fact, it's debatable if they'd have got out of the Third. Carlos season 3 - on course for mid table Jos - mid table Bruce - mid table Monk - mid table. Gray - mid table Apart from the two seasons we spent a fortune and got to the play offs, we have finished mid table under 4 different managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 57 minutes ago, Bulldog said: I agree with your statistics. 5 points from the next 3 is about where we are but that has the table showing us with 1 point from 9 games In effect we then have to win every other game of the remaining 37. At first I read that as meaning we'd need to win every game of the others which remain! I was wondering why we'd need 112 points to stay up! Now that I'm back on planet Earth, yes - to achieve 1.4 points per game (which would keep us up in all but the most extreme Championship season) we need to be looking at something like 2 wins, 2 losses and a draw from every 5 games. Obviously, results won't fall into such neat clusters as that, but it gives us a rough idea of where we need to be. It's going to be a long, hard season. If we go unbeaten in our next three games and take a victory in at least one of them, I wouldn't think it would be time to panic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, room0035 said: I said at the start of the season Monk has 10 games to get positive or he should be gone, End of November needs to be out of bottom 3 or he should be gone. Reason is simple we have 8 games in December and if the teams struggling a new manager bounce could get us well and truly out of the bottom 3. Unreal expectations. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 17 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: If we get 5 points from the next 3 games, then we'll have 13 points from our opening 9 matches, which is 1.44 points per game. Over the course of a full season, that would see us gain 66 points, which should be more than enough to stay up, even once you deduct 12 points to leave us on 54. Why would we panic about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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