james o connor Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I still doubt there is enough goals in this team but I’d far rather watch and support a bunch of decent if unspectacular grafters than the over paid , turn it on every ten games lot we’ve had in recent seasons. Not one of them will be missed . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 The consensus of the thread seems to be that have gone for graft over quality. I don’t have a problem with that except up front. The new guys might click it’s too early to say. But for me the team is crying out for a terry Curran or Gary bannister type of striker. One that has the graft but a bit of craft too to create something out of nothing. Maybe the lad from derby might provide it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Minor Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 31 minutes ago, Plonk said: The consensus of the thread seems to be that have gone for graft over quality. I don’t have a problem with that except up front. The new guys might click it’s too early to say. But for me the team is crying out for a terry Curran or Gary bannister type of striker. One that has the graft but a bit of craft too to create something out of nothing. Maybe the lad from derby might provide it? Absolutely, Curran was a catalyst that made an immense difference. Time to add those sort of players in the future when we have this difficult season out of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I like to judge this on positions. Keeper: same No change to the personnel and Westwood still ridiculously expelled. Not good enough options but the same as last season centre back: Much stronger Flint is a superb signing and I think Dunkley will be too in The long run. We only lost the invisible Bates and Fox who would have been at cb this season who I don’t rate anyway. Also van Aken has come back slightly better too. Midfield: stronger We’ve replaced an aging Lee with Dele- Bashiru who could be a star. Hutch has also gone but wasn’t playing anyone. The addition of Brown is also huge. Wing back: weaker Not replaced Murphy who was excellent last season. Think Reach can do well if given a run of games. Penney also returned but the jury on him is out for me. Strikers: slightly weaker Some good signings like Paterson and Marriott but losing Fletch was huge for me. Also don’t have an X factor like Nuhiu off the bench. However we have some extremely hard working forwards this season which pleases me. Overall I’m very happy. We’ve reduced the wage bill and age of the squad massively yet it’s almost as good. Not a Monk fan but he’s done well in the window for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The last squad of players certainly had some quality, however application, consistency, ageing players , injuries and poor form became the norm. If the last squad was so good , how many of those players have moved onto better things. I think some of us have been wearing those rose tinted googles for too long, understandably given our decades of demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2soon Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 18/10/2020 at 11:37, Dutch McLovin said: Which three would you have kept ? Personally Fox and Murphy. I think the club would have liked Fletcher . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, 2soon said: Personally Fox and Murphy. I think the club would have liked Fletcher . Says something when the only one we actually kept was Pelupessy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: Says something when the only one we actually kept was Pelupessy It says he was the only one we could afford to re sign . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 18/10/2020 at 13:57, gurujuan said: Depends what you want from your football team. As others have said, we’ve lost a lot of quality, but if we you want a lot of huff and puff, we e got a few more who run around a lot Time will tell whether these players are what we need. If you run around a lot with a purpose and buy into how the manager wants the group to play then that can take you a long way . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watto Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 18/10/2020 at 09:40, swinners said: Players out V players in. Have to say, looking at it like this the club have done great business, reduced the age of the squad, no doubt reduced the wage bill AND have a better squad! Well done Wednesday! (Brackets are goals scored last year). I tried to line the players up on a like to like basis (where i could) Fox (3) - Penney Thorniley - Van Aken Bates - Chey Dunkley Hutchinson (1) - Flint Lee - Bashiru Murphy (9) - Katchunga Nuhiu (7) - Paterson Fletcher (13) - Marriott Windass (3) - Windass Winnall (2) - Brown Forestieri (2) - Adedoyin Joao (1) Wickham (2) Da Cruz The only 3 we'll miss in reality are Fletcher , Murphy and João ( when he's in the mood ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 hours ago, torryowl said: It says he was the only one we could afford to re sign . Afford him or not mate it was a bad move haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Dutch McLovin said: Afford him or not mate it was a bad move haha .we all know his limitations but he's a decent enough player to bring on as the extra defensive midfielder if we hanging on to a result ......5 minutes to go you wouldnt want to be sending on hunt to try and close the game down ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 18/10/2020 at 09:44, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: The overall quality of the squad has probably been reduced, when you compare the players on an individual basis. However, in terms of work rate, energy, athleticism and fight, we look much stronger so far. A good team is often greater than the sum of its parts; let's hope that rings true in this instance. This Lot more workers, less shirkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2soon Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 12 hours ago, Dutch McLovin said: Says something when the only one we actually kept was Pelupessy Not sure what you mean or what it says? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, 2soon said: Not sure what you mean or what it says? Means we couldn’t afford to keep any of the others and says we’re that incompetent we kept him anyway Edited October 20, 2020 by Dutch McLovin Missed word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 9 hours ago, torryowl said: .we all know his limitations but he's a decent enough player to bring on as the extra defensive midfielder if we hanging on to a result ......5 minutes to go you wouldnt want to be sending on hunt to try and close the game down ........ to be honest I would mate. Well Waldock or Shaw over Hunt but I think all three would do a better job of closing a game out than Pelupessy. It’s not that he doesn’t try or is bad in possession it’s that he doesn’t impact the game his number of touches and tackles is way lower than any other player. He is just below the level required by a lot and his position on the bench could be taking away valuble experience for the likes of Waldock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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