morganowl Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 hour ago, hugeowl said: Not another one who thought Luongo was a centre back he played a similar role what hutchinson played , in front of back 4 seen that we didnt play 3 5 2 today , it worked thats all what counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adem Poric Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) Anyone who thinks Reach played wide left in a four man midfield today has got their eyes painted on. He played centre mid with Bannan. Luongo played a floating role between defence and midfield. The two wide men were wingbacks. Kachunga (who worked hard but didn't really affect the game) interchanged with Windass behind Paterson. Call the formation whatever you want to, whatever makes people happy. Some people are desperate for 442 even though no one really plays it any more. We played with fluidity and movement in that first half, it was good to watch. Edited October 17, 2020 by Adem Poric 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Adem Poric said: Anyone who thinks Reach played wide left in a four man midfield today has got their eyes painted on. He played centre mid with Bannan. Luongo played a floating role between defence and midfield. The two wide men were wingbacks. Kachunga (who worked hard but didn't really affect the game) interchanged with Windass behind Paterson. Call the formation whatever you want to, whatever makes people happy. Some people are desperate for 442 even though no one really plays it any more. We played with fluidity and movement in that first half, it was good to watch. Yeah strange that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 55 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: How did Harris do as a left back ? I thought he did ok 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S72 Owl Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Definitely wasn’t 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 It was a weird shape that seemed to work and confuse Birmingham. Not sure we could play like that against better opposition. Think you’ll see us revert to 3-5-2 once Iorfa is back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 57 minutes ago, hugeowl said: I thought he did ok He seems a better defender than a winger. I would like to see Penney behind Reach tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S6ToBerlin Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) Monk said in his post-match interview "Considering entering this international break with a lot of injuries defensively, having to work tactically a little bit different throughout the international period for this one particular game.." Sounds like it was just cus of injuries, might be switching back to the back 3 next week. edit: or whenever Iorfa and Lees are back Edited October 17, 2020 by S6ToBerlin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Errol Flashman said: Formation depended where the ball was. Anyway... Great result and more importantly a good performance, I'm quoting this because some of the formation speculators might have missed this simple but insightful post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 We have the issue of having a few good centre backs now so playing with 3 seems to be the most likely plan really. I guess the following will be Monk’s plan when everyone is fit. But I’d say there’s 3 areas up for debate, the 3rd CB, RWB and ST Dawson Iorfa Flint Van Aken / Lees Odubajo / Harris Luongo Bannan Reach Brown Paterson Marriott / Windass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, StudentOwl said: Dawson Flint van Aken Luongo Odubajo Harris Reach Bannan Kachunga Paterson Windass Doesn't look like 4-4-2 to me This is how we set up. Without ball Kachunga dropped into make a back 3 wingbacks raising it to 5. Going forward we went down to 2 at back during periods of pressure with Luongo and wingbacks pushing up to join midfield. Windasss, Patterson and Kachunga all tracked back and did share of defending.as very fluid formation. It did work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wall Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 That's the problem watching it on TV. I think it's much easier to pick out a formation watching live in the ground. Also, those average position maps very rarely show anything that looks like 442. A few seasons ago, Kieren Lee was often our furthest forward player on that basis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, StudentOwl said: Dawson Flint van Aken Luongo Odubajo Harris Reach Bannan Kachunga Paterson Windass Doesn't look like 4-4-2 to me 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Adem Poric said: Anyone who thinks Reach played wide left in a four man midfield today has got their eyes painted on. He played centre mid with Bannan. Luongo played a floating role between defence and midfield. The two wide men were wingbacks. Kachunga (who worked hard but didn't really affect the game) interchanged with Windass behind Paterson. Call the formation whatever you want to, whatever makes people happy. Some people are desperate for 442 even though no one really plays it any more. We played with fluidity and movement in that first half, it was good to watch. It was good football in first hour. Then we got nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I thought it worked because it gave us more security out wide when we dropped into the 442 to defend , no big holes behind wingbacks. Also we had more fluidity going forward and the formation certainly confused Brum Think we might see it again against Brentford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristmace Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Names are wrong on this but looks to me like the classic 442 narrow diamond formation. Football Manager players win the champions league with this regularly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Whatever anyone wants to label it, it was a fine and fluid formation that capitalised on their tendency to like to break out from the back with Friend making long central runs into our last third. With the slow Clayton recycling the ball, it was like watching a typical Karanka Boro side but in blue shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 6 hours ago, oldishowl said: I thought it worked because it gave us more security out wide when we dropped into the 442 to defend , no big holes behind wingbacks. Also we had more fluidity going forward and the formation certainly confused Brum Think we might see it again against Brentford Do Brentford play a 4-3-3? It looked that way this weekend, with two wide players either side of Toney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: Do Brentford play a 4-3-3? It looked that way this weekend, with two wide players either side of Toney Thought they always play a 433. Which is why I would try the formation again . It’s wasn’t a great deal different formation wise from how Carlos used to play. When we had the ball he used to pull Bannan and Wallace more central, try and get the full backs into the space they left and drop Hutch into the back to cover. Exactly what we were doing yesterday. Carlos however was obviously more about possession and we need to improve that aspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 minute ago, oldishowl said: Thought they always play a 433. Which is why I would try the formation again . It’s wasn’t a great deal different formation wise from how Carlos used to play. When we had the ball he used to pull Bannan and Wallace more central, try and get the full backs into the space they left and drop Hutch into the back to cover. Exactly what we were doing yesterday. Carlos however was obviously more about possession and we need to improve that aspect Yes I’d tend to agree, but we definitely need to look after the ball better. Yesterday, with Luongo acting as a centre back, and Brown missing, it was more difficult, but with the midfield three we have, there should be more emphasis on keeping possession, especially if we don’t have the players to counter attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Whatever formation it was it worked because we got 3 much needed points. We’ve got a lot of centre-backs so I suspect we’ll play 3 at the back more often than not. Still not convinced with our options at full/wing back but sorting out all our problems was never going to happen in this window for a variety of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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