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Years of mismanagement on and off the pitch, years of poor recruitment and we still don't learn that to progress at this level you have to bring players through, sell and reinvest. Players come and go, we've stagnated and regressed so much ever since the failed play off campaigns, when ever since Wembley we should have sold players whilst they still had resale value and reinvested with younger players with potentially more resale value. 

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7 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said:


But for a club the size of Brentford? They are punching well above their weight. More than their fans would expect. Play good attractive football every year. And scout some of the best talent in the League and sell on for huge profits. 
 

Incredibly sustainable and healthy way of running things. And when they do finally get promoted (which they will) what a position they will be in to build. 

 

It's a fit and proper long term strategy with substance, something that appears to be lost on our owner, amongst many other owners.

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5 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

Taking multi-millions for Forestieri is different from the £1M you suggested we should accept for Bannan. 

 

He won't single-handedly save us but we have a better chance with him than Pelupessy or young Bashiru playing every game, unless you think we will find a gem to replace him in the next two days?

 

As for not opening teams up, we have scored 3 league goals this season and he was heavily involved in 2 of them, not sure we have anyone else to do any better. 

Nobody knows what will happen in the next 2 days, or who we may sign. Yet you've mentioned 2 players who wouldn't start if Bannan was sold. Getting a fee for a player slowly moving to the end of his career is something we should do. We have been burnt before and no doubt will be again. Hanging on to players for too long when they are only getting worse seems to be a bad habit of ours. Take the cash and reinvest in a younger player who suits our style of play.

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8 hours ago, NorthernOwl said:

Would be a great move for both Bannan and Brentford and a terrible one for us.

 

No doubt Monk will be keen to move him on and replace him with another talentless hard worker.

 

The same Monk who made Bannan captain this summer despite the captain already there not leaving the club? Yeah, no doubt Monk can't wait to get rid of Barry alright.

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3 minutes ago, Andrew6666 said:

Nobody knows what will happen in the next 2 days, or who we may sign. Yet you've mentioned 2 players who wouldn't start if Bannan was sold. Getting a fee for a player slowly moving to the end of his career is something we should do. We have been burnt before and no doubt will be again. Hanging on to players for too long when they are only getting worse seems to be a bad habit of ours. Take the cash and reinvest in a younger player who suits our style of play.

 

Reinvest the cash - £1M you said - wisely in the next 2 days, good luck with that. Far more money if we stay up and more chance of staying up with him in the team than without him.

Who is playing regularly for us in his place if we sell him this week?

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7 hours ago, room0035 said:

Problem is football fans are fickle if Brentford get into the premier league then they will be filling their new stadium every week.

 

Then have got in £28m for Watkins look like getting another £30m for Berahma that £60m for two players that cost them £4.5m that's is amazing business in these very difficult time they are about as safe as a team can be and have pretty much paid for their new stadium.

 

They have brought in the a striker who has scored 40 goals in a season and a half to replace what they are losing, but they are still signing good young players to improve and marcus Forss this season is going to show just how good he is.

 

yes they have spent most of the history outside of the top 2 division but equally we have not been in the top division for 20+ years so which team there or ours do you think has more chance on being in the top flight in the next few season.

 

Couldn't have put it better myself.

 

20 years is a long time out of the top flight. It was only 30 years or so since the first 1 million pound player.

 

Football has changed unfathomably in the time we have spent out of the Premier League and we are no more entitled or indeed likely than Brentford to become a household name in the Premier League again.

 

 

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Just now, hirstyboywonder said:

 

Reinvest the cash - £1M you said - wisely in the next 2 days, good luck with that. Far more money if we stay up and more chance of staying up with him in the team than without him.

Who is playing regularly for us if we sell him this week?

Would it go towards bringing Murphy back, could it go towards a striker, could it go towards the loan of a PL young midfielder. There are many options, don't let sentiment blind you, you seem very loyal to Bannan, remember he kissed many badges before ours. A fee now is better than nothing later, to be honest I'm gobsmacked Brentford want him (not being awful, just a bit shocked as he will have no resale value).

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3 minutes ago, Mystic Neg said:

 

Couldn't have put it better myself.

 

20 years is a long time out of the top flight. It was only 30 years or so since the first 1 million pound player.

 

Football has changed unfathomably in the time we have spent out of the Premier League and we are no more entitled or indeed likely than Brentford to become a household name in the Premier League again.

 

 

 

As much as it hurts to say, they'll get there before us. It's not new news but the below is incredible. 

 

Can only hope if we can somehow stay up this season our new transfer policy from next year on can move closer toward this, which is why I'm so keen for us to sign Sanderson if we can.

 

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2 hours ago, @owlstalk said:


 

Lots of people slating Bannans set piece delivery (I agree they’re beyond shocking)

 

Blame for that is not with Bannan but whoever instructs him and the team that he should be the one who takes em

 

Brown got loads of plaudits for his set pieces against Leicester pre season but he delivered some shockers against Bristol City. We've scored 1 goal from a set piece in the league so far, Bannan took it.

If someone was proving they could do a better job of it then I'm sure Monk would put someone else on set pieces wouldn't he?

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2 hours ago, Ian said:

All of them would have chance....it’s almost guaranteed that whoever took over set piece duty would improve them (unless we sign Pickford!)

 

Surely the manager decides who is on set piece duty? Do you think he just lets Bannan take them out of habit?

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3 hours ago, mcmigo said:

hunt

 

Why hasn't he replaced him already then?

 

Hunt looks like he could become a decent player but if we put him in to dictate our midfield play in our relegation battle over the next 40 games then it will end in relegation. 

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11 minutes ago, Andrew6666 said:

Would it go towards bringing Murphy back, could it go towards a striker, could it go towards the loan of a PL young midfielder. There are many options, don't let sentiment blind you, you seem very loyal to Bannan, remember he kissed many badges before ours. A fee now is better than nothing later, to be honest I'm gobsmacked Brentford want him (not being awful, just a bit shocked as he will have no resale value).

 

Murphy coming back doesn't hinge on whether we sell Bannan, he's more likely not to come back if we sell Bannan as he can see which way the ship will be steering for the remainder of the season, we need a striker anyway and £1 as you said for Bannan shouldn't hinge on that, which young PL midfielder will suddenly decide in the next 36 hours that a move to SWFC, a side on minus points who play awful football is a good career choice? 

 

Brentford don't need to worry about the resale value of one player who would cost them next to nothing - their recent income has been shown in this thread and if they get someone who is calm in possession and can start moves to get their mobile forward players into good positions then it could be just what they need. 

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5 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

Why hasn't he replaced him already then?

 

Hunt looks like he could become a decent player but if we put him in to dictate our midfield play in our relegation battle over the next 40 games then it will end in relegation. 

The Hunter....becomes the Hunted!

 

Hunt is a real player. You stick Luongo next to him, those two will be a good combination in the middle, and will get up and down the park more than we do with BB. 
 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, mcmigo said:

The Hunter....becomes the Hunted!

 

Hunt is a real player. You stick Luongo next to him, those two will be a good combination in the middle, and will get up and down the park more than we do with BB. 
 

 

 

"up and down the park".

 

House!!

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8 hours ago, HarryPlopper said:

We have a replacement for Bannan.

 

Those saying £2m plus are deluded, at 30 with less than 12 months on his contract - take a low offer and save on the wages.    Get him out.     Start the transformation of the squad now.

 

The replacement is not one person by the way, it's two.

 

We have Hunt, we have Penney.   Between them they more than make up for what Bannan offers if they are on the pitch.

 

 


Ive seen absolutely nothing to suggest that either Hunt or Penney are Championship players yet, let alone outstanding Championship players.

 

Right now they are D1 at best.  

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1 hour ago, mcmigo said:

Hunt is a real player. You stick Luongo next to him, those two will be a good combination in the middle, and will get up and down the park more than we do with BB. 
 

 

 

I agree with this. Luongo Hunt and Brown would be pretty decent I reckon. I really rate Hunt but can’t see him playing next to Bannan 

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7 hours ago, LoanRanger said:

 

As much as it hurts to say, they'll get there before us. It's not new news but the below is incredible. 

 

Can only hope if we can somehow stay up this season our new transfer policy from next year on can move closer toward this, which is why I'm so keen for us to sign Sanderson if we can.

 

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Which is why I don’t get why more teams including us aren’t putting this in place?

 

Why haven’t we got a recruitment team that can pull this together? We’re apparently flush in cash - the ROI on these deals are 1:10 - it’s best investment DC could make 

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