TommyCraig Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Well the place to start would be a letter to Clive Betts, he would be your starting place. Letter or petition ! T'owd Clive will be getting sick of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Night King said: So the EPL not happy with this proposition. Well, eleven of them, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 If it’s a gift they’re more than welcome to gift it now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonowl Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 hours ago, striker said: Let them go and be a stand alone league IMO. PL is not football, the FA could assign a European place to the winner of the championship if they wanted to and greater autonomy to the EFL, cup competitions. A league comprising 72 teams, plus non league rather than just 20. If the PL want to reduce numbers, the admission price for the two teams without a league to play in starts at £1bn surely. To sell the integrity of the entire football league ecosystem for £250m is pitiful, but not surprising from Parry. The big six have carved up the money up so much, and are so arrogant they probably think they don’t need opponents! Time for the EFL and FA to tell the “ PREMIER LEAGUE” , to ******** off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 A gift of one teams share for 1 year whilst proposing to reduce the number by 2. Its not even well covered up. Rick parry needs booting now. Is he elected? How can the EFL clubs come together to get rid of of a man in charge of their organisation who quite clearly doesn't have their interest at heart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, nethertonowl said: The big six have carved up the money up so much, and are so arrogant they probably think they don’t need opponents! Time for the EFL and FA to tell the “ PREMIER LEAGUE” , to ******** off. We've allowed one of the head guys of the Premier league to run the EFL! It's an absolute disgrace. I'm actually at Dave Allen ere levels of anger towards this Edited October 11, 2020 by TheGaffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, TheGaffer said: Why would you include the Scottish and Welsh leagues? The football league being too big is part of the problem this batshit idea is trying to resolve. Besides celtic and rangers will probably end up in the other league if uefa allowed cross border competition and I really don't fancy watching us get trounced by tyrfer myffil or some other tinpot village outside of England. Just think it would be something a bit different. Increase the interest a bit. I think games against the Scottish teams would be decent for atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, sage owl said: Less league fixtures = more lucrative friendlies . Hit the nail on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, trev said: Just think it would be something a bit different. Increase the interest a bit. I think games against the Scottish teams would be decent for atmosphere. That's fair enough but that's what preseason and internationals are for for me. It costs enough trying travelling as it is never mind a midweek to Aberdeen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 39 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: True, but they tend to play second strings in those games anyway. Losing a couple of teams only saves a few games and presumably that de values the main product in some way. I never really got their issue as they only have 38 league games and it’s 46 in the EFL plus cups with a fraction of the budget. First world problems Made more sense when Bolton tried to close the league off. Is it partly down to protecting players from ‘burn out’. Wouldn’t want them to suffer, not on those wages, with all that free medical care.... I’m about to rant.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheGaffer said: That's fair enough but that's what preseason and internationals are for for me. It costs enough trying travelling as it is never mind a midweek to Aberdeen! Yeah not great for away fans fair one. Maybe just the cups then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 You do realise the majority of those big 9 clubs are mostly the very same clubs that brought about the formation of the Premier League in the first place? The Premier League was formed out of pure greed for extra TV money. At the time, the top clubs/richest clubs back then were threatening to leave the old Football League four division pyramid and to join a European Super League. Instead the old top flight and European Cup were rebranded. Every year since, the very same top, richest and elite clubs have craved s bigger slice of the pie. It's motivated by pure greed and nothing else, they already get more money than the rest of the clubs and yet they want more. Whilst football carried on without fans, ordinary people struggle to survive and smaller clubs face going out of business. The Premier League and elite clubs have shown time and time again, that they don't give a fizz about ordinary people; the fans, history and tradition. It's just want business to them. It's time to boot Parry out, restructure the governing bodies not the football pyramid, help the smaller clubs and to tell the elite clubs to leave if they want and if they ever wanted to rejoin to start from the bottom or never let them back in. It's either that or time to jack it in and the way I feel about modern football, nowadays, I wouldn't blame any fans wanting to give up football entirely because it stopped being a sport a long time ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Ultimately if people were THAT angry/disgusted at what the Premier League gets up to they could cancel their Sky Sports subscription If they're that angry about it will they do that? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 22 minutes ago, mark1948 said: Why would you wish this? I want to see Wednesday in the premier League as one of the big clubs not an also ran or, as you are proposing, irrelevant. If we get promoted we will be an also ran, no chance of winning the league and a slight chance of winning a cup Just there to make the fixtures up as at least half the teams are already, but still losing money every year just to achieve this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Ultimately if people were THAT angry/disgusted at what the Premier League gets up to they could cancel their Sky Sports subscription If they're that angry about it will they do that? Not had sky sports ever and only had sky itself for 1 year due to the ex being a towie and all that testicles fan. Would love and an update to Adrian Tempenys, and the sun shines now, book. We don't come out great and there's a few things that I don't think are accurate, however post 2015 makes it look like used car salesman to what the Premier league has become. Edited October 11, 2020 by TheGaffer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1948 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, the third man said: If we get promoted we will be an also ran, no chance of winning the league and a slight chance of winning a cup Just there to make the fixtures up as at least half the teams are already, but still losing money every year just to achieve this Just now, the third man said: If we get promoted we will be an also ran, no chance of winning the league and a slight chance of winning a cup Just there to make the fixtures up as at least half the teams are already, but still losing money every year just to achieve this There is always the Leicester factor. Sooner or later in a reduces league one of the Nine will get relegated making room for for another to join the top nine. I have seen Liverpool, Man U and Man City in the second division in my lifetime so don't think that theses teams will prosper come what may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, mark1948 said: There is always the Leicester factor. Sooner or later in a reduces league one of the Nine will get relegated making room for for another to join the top nine. I have seen Liverpool, Man U and Man City in the second division in my lifetime so don't think that theses teams will prosper come what may. So have i, but it wont happen again, the PL and Sky wont allow it Let it be a closed shop and let them stew, see how many fans of the clubs that haven't got a chance of winning anything get bored and either give up on football or swap their allegiance to a top 6 club its the only way football has a chance to return to how it was, if there is a chance at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, mark1948 said: There is always the Leicester factor. Sooner or later in a reduces league one of the Nine will get relegated making room for for another to join the top nine. I have seen Liverpool, Man U and Man City in the second division in my lifetime so don't think that theses teams will prosper come what may. Will that ever happen though? They can if needed vote to change the rules mid season. If man u for example (happened in the 70s) got relegated, the other 5 would join them in changing relegation to one team. They are the biggest earner and defacto by this proposal so are all the 6. It's fundamentally and abhorrent suggestion that isn't sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mark1948 said: There is always the Leicester factor. Sooner or later in a reduces league one of the Nine will get relegated making room for for another to join the top nine. I have seen Liverpool, Man U and Man City in the second division in my lifetime so don't think that theses teams will prosper come what may. As if. There is literally no chance that one of the Super Important Nine will be allowed to be relegated. Not when six of them could just vote to prevent it. Edited October 11, 2020 by owlinexile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlsItGoing Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 This may sound like a stupid idea but why not operate more like American football does have a north division amd a South division, then you could have a "payoffs" for the winners of each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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