alanharper Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 So if this does happen, they'd have to limit the number of promoted teams for at least one year. Absolutely nailed on that the one year we finally have a freak good season and finish runners up in the Championship, only the champions will go up that year... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Basically it's an American Franchise closed shop model. What the Nine wants, the Nine gets... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, fpowl said: The FA will be given £100 million as a gift it’s such a corrupt league the foundation of the football pyramid is being trampled on for nothing more than greed the history and heritage is being wiped out of the game by this new culture to be honest I wouldn’t be against a 3-4 division league structure breaking away like the we already have let the premier league be it’s own 10-20 trans and let’s get our game back no VAR domestic club cup competitions places for European comps granted effectively the championship becomes the the Premier league and they can have the power league No promotion or relegation or a one up one down process maybe even the championship winner being invited to the power league at the end of their successful campaign which they have the right to decline I feel sorry for teams that would just qualify to remain in it that wouldn’t be involved in the rest of the uks football let them be isolated in greed Christ we could have our own uk cup including Scottish and Welsh teams be the new FA cup see if the magic applies wider one thing we would need is a better formed and regulated governing body then those half wits EFL who already think they are god but let’s get our football back So what do think of the role of the FA would be having secured the coveted FA GIFT Bribe of £100 M. The FA in it's current format needs binning and replacing with a new constitution of democratic representation. Outside the top 18 I would propose a five tier structure with 20 teams per league. One FA rep elected by 'all fan elections' with the right of immediate recall by a fan vote. Voting members would pay a nominal fee (£1 or 2) to support the new FA. FA registration particularly the big 18 would for the good of the game be excessive and inline with Turnover; Player purchases and sales would also have a premium charge attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night King Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Some more flesh on the bones here. Fund An immediate rescue fund of £350,000,000 to the English Football League and Football Association for lost revenues of 2019/20 and 2020/21... For the EFL: £50,000,000 to cover 2019/20 EFL matchday losses; Up to £200,000,000 available to cover 2020/21 EFL matchday losses; Money will be advanced to the EFL from increased future revenues. For the FA: £100,000,000 in grants, made up of £55,000,000 to cover operational losses, £25,000,000 for clubs below the EFL, £10,000,000 for the Women’s Super League and Championship, £10,000,000 for grassroots Funds to be made available by the Premier League through loans guaranteed by the clubs. Infrastructure Plan Infrastructure funding of 6% of Premier League gross revenues to be distributed annually to the top four divisions. Each club will receive £100 per seat annually. Infrastructure funding can only be used for stadia and fan experiences. Fan Charter A cap of £20 on Premier League away ticketing (adjusted every 3 years for inflation) Subsidised Premier League away travel Safe-standing sections at the discretion of each club, subject to government permission. Away sections must provide at least 3,000 or 8% of capacity, whichever is higher. Annual Good Causes An increase of 66% in annual contributions to good causes in England. A total of 5% of Premier League gross income to be contributed annually to good causes and grassroots football, to include focus on combatting racism and discrimination. Redistribution of Media & Sponsorship Revenues (three possible options) Option A: 50% equal, 25% current-year merit, 25% previous 3-year merit A greater emphasis will be placed on merit in both the Premier League and the Championship with half of payments reflecting positions over the past four years. Option B: Current Premier League distribution scheme (50% equal, 25% by merit and 25% by facility fees) but newly promoted clubs must holdback £25m of first two years in the Premier League to mitigate risk of relegation. Option Current Premier League distribution scheme, but newly promoted clubs receive 25% of their allocated Facility Fees for first 3 years in league. For all above options: Excluding parachute payments and including new infrastructure payments, solidarity from the Premier League to the English Football League would increase from 4% to 25%. Premier League and English Football League domestic and international media rights will be collectively sold by the Premier League. Compensation payments to The EFL and FA, infrastructure monies and related borrowings are deducted prior to determination of distributable revenues. Pyramid structure The Premier League, originally formed to house 18 clubs,would be reduced from 20 to 18 clubs. This would free up the calendar and, with fewer teams and an end to parachute payments, provide additional resources to the EFL. Reduction from 38 to 34 rounds of matches will also aid the national team. Championships, League One and League Two to all be made up of 24 clubs Promotion and relegation Premier League relegation: At least two clubs automatically relegated annually Championship promotion: 1st and 2nd automatically promoted. Club finishing 16th in the Premier League to join four-team Championship play-off tournament for final Premier League place, with teams who finish 3rd, 4th and 5th in the Championships. Semi-finals would be 16th place Premier League team vs 5th place Championship team and 3rd place Championship team vs 4th place Championship team. Championship: Relegation of three clubs League One: Promotion of three clubs. Relegation of four clubs League Two: Promotion of four clubs. Relegation of four clubs Club media All Premier League clubs have the exclusive rights to sell eight live matches a season directly to fans via their own digital platforms in all international territories. All Premier League and Championship clubs allowed to show limited in-match highlights on their own digital platforms. No more than 27 games per club will be shown live in UK per season Saturday 3pm broadcast blackouts remain to help protect EFL attendance Other competitions League Cup and Community Shield discontinued; Establishment of a new independent league for the Women’s professional game, not to be owned by the Premier League or The Football Association; FA Cup replays retained but there will be no replays in the winter break; Premier League begins later in August and pre-season friendlies extended; No more than two weeks between the end of the Premier League and the Champions League final; Premier League clubs must participate at least once every five years in the Premier League summer tournament. Other structural changes Elite Player Performance Plan funding is included in the revenue received by EFL clubs; Clubs in League One and below are no longer required to have an academy; Clubs permitted to have up to 15 players out on loan domestically at any time, including up to four in a single English club. Introduction of one month loans for players under 23, an ability to recall loanees in the event of managerial change, incentivise loanee clubs through payments based on future performance or sale of loaned players; Remove the scholarship clause permitting players to terminate at any stage; No restrictions on loans in; Player contracts: Lump sums permitted to be payable from the start of employment. Force majeure provisions to be added to protect against clubs' insolvency. Cost Controls & Related Party Income Financial Fair Play rules that align with Uefa to ensure English clubs are not at a disadvantage in Europe; A £50 million cap per annum on all related party transactions and a more stringent ‘related party’ definition; Premier League executive provided with full access to clubs accounting information to investigate cost control A joint Premier League and Championship body will monitor cost controls. The English Football League will introduce hard salary caps. Governance All material matters relating to the business of the Premier League will require shareholder approval, except that the Board will decide whether to approve a new owner; All votes will require more than two-thirds majority to be approved; All other votes for the operation of the Premier League will be one-club, one-vote except those provided for under ‘Special Voting Rights’ Special Voting Rights Each of the nine clubs who, at any time of determination, have been members of the Premier League continuously for more seasons than other clubs will be considered a ‘Long-Term Shareholder’. Two-thirds of the long-term shareholders can cause to be adopted without approval from the other clubs: i) the election or removal of the CEO and/or a member of the board; ii) amendments to cost control rules and regulations; iii) contracts for the sale of league broadcasting and media rights Two-thirds of the long-term shareholders can prevent from being adopted resolutions to: i) change the distribution rights of the sponsorship, commercial and broadcasting rights sold centrally; ii) change the distribution to clubs from other PL centralised rights or assets c) alter in a material way the nature of the competition Two-thirds of the long-term shareholders can veto the Premier League board’s approval of a proposed new owner. What do you think about the changes proposed by “Project Big Picture”? How would you shake-up English football? Let us know in the comments section below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 The FA is there to support the whole football structure down to the grass roots, not just the Premiership and EFL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Fessi Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 No. It's sad to see that the commercial side to football is what dictates every major decision and future of the game. Money talks and unfortunately the Premier League is so lucrative the investment it attracts corrupts the real fundamentals and history of the game, the belief that it should be fans first, everything else second. What an insane proposition. The first of many that rewards the 'super-rich' clubs who are bankrolled by global billionaires. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, owlinexile said: A 'gift'? Why not just call it what it is, a bung? fizz knows what the 'big teams' would do as soon as they have their little club of nine permanent members that get to call all the shots. None of them will ever be allowed to get relegated, that seems certain. Honestly wish they would just have their own league with now without influencing the football pyramid below it the championship is already like a premier league for many lower teams anyway and the premier league make a mockery out of the domestic competitions anyway they are in anyway if the EFL had its own division structure with places for Europe and it’s own domestic cup competitions the pressure for championship clubs not to get promoted will be off and the chance to win silver wear more real they in turn will take the cups more seriously giving the integrity back to the sport like it used to be if we have to have a cup including the so call power league fair enough but I’ll almost guarantee that would be made up of youth and reserve players like it is now and not he taken seriously english football is currently broken needs a big revamp it’s getting over run by power and greed and the football league is suffering I’d love a breakaway you never know we could even end up uk champions again and be in Europe in my lifetime the leagues would become more appealing as realistic places for European comps become available the premier league just becomes a money league for the elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Bluesteel said: Why would dropping 2 places benefit anyone at the top? Do they just want to play fewer games There’s plenty if clubs who constantly whinge about the amount of games. Several clubs seem to have little interest in the Caribou Cup and the Europa league seems to go on for ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I think this has been on the cards for a while? The financial issues that have been acerbated by the pandemic give the bigger clubs the opportunity to force through their proposals? Strangely one of the first if not the first chief executive of the premier league just happens to be the current chairman of the EFL and even though he can’t be blamed for the pandemic, it would be a coincidence, would it not if proposals to benefit the Premier League were forced on the EFL? Whether we like it or not this Pandemic has given the opportunity for the Premier League to bring in several things like this proposal, PPV, etc. to benefit them. English football’s changing I’m afraid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandwhitematt Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Two-thirds of the long-term shareholders can veto the Premier League board’s approval of a proposed new owner. That, is absolutely crackers. So any potential takeover which might result in the 'top 6' applecart getting disrupted, can be vetoed by said 'top 6'!? Some of the proposal is to be applauded, some to be lived with as a price to pay, but then there are things like that thrown in which stink. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 The fact that 6 out of 9 out of 18 clubs can have such an influence in terms of revunue spread and the rules is an absolute ******** disgrace! This is also very typical of the Premier league in terms of "here's £100M", it's like when itv digital went bust. The EFL took the up front deal without any consideration of the long term consequences. They were offered and bigger up front fee but reduced percentage per year, over, a reduce up front fee but a guaranteed 50% share of future TV deals. How stupid does that deal look in hindsight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: So what do think of the role of the FA would be having secured the coveted FA GIFT Bribe of £100 M. The FA in it's current format needs binning and replacing with a new constitution of democratic representation. Outside the top 18 I would propose a five tier structure with 20 teams per league. One FA rep elected by 'all fan elections' with the right of immediate recall by a fan vote. Voting members would pay a nominal fee (£1 or 2) to support the new FA. FA registration particularly the big 18 would for the good of the game be excessive and inline with Turnover; Player purchases and sales would also have a premium charge attached. I agree apart from the voting face know when polls are formed our fan base could easily effect this vote because of our number and let’s be fair we are biased and would vote in our favour if not particular fair on others maybe an overall fan vote collectively going in as a voice or 10 % and each representing team gets a vote puts the fans back having a say but you are 100% right it needs a massive restructure almost dissolving and starting again you never know this covid might actually force the league clubs to take drastic action and breakaway I wouldn’t be against it at all not sure how that would work with FIFA end Europe in recognising it’s new formation the the FA have the power league, sod the EFL and form a new UKFA would need every league club to vote though and Christ knows the implications and costs to basic boycot a full football system and start again done right I’m sure sky and Europe would back the new formation even if trans qualifying for the Europe are given a lower rank which I’d expect win win I’d imagine those wanting to stay in the premier league and not be a member of this new league structure would actually drop and they might end up with about 10 teams so them let them have all the best players to show care on our shores it’s actually better than them going to dubai, America, China just let our football come home to the fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 This stinks of Rick Parry the guy who started all this by lobbying for a breakaway league. He had 2 missions when he got the EFL job. 1 make an example of a club for breaching FFP and 2 start the ball rolling on a closed shop/franchise PL. He’s succeeded with point 1 and I’d say point 2 is in motion with this latest proposal. RIP football. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 It won't be long till they have a permanent membership on the UN security council as well at this rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: There’s plenty if clubs who constantly whinge about the amount of games. Several clubs seem to have little interest in the Caribou Cup and the Europa league seems to go on for ever. Less league fixtures = more lucrative friendlies . 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Uniform Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 These proposals have been brought by Rick Parry. The one who is meant to be working towards the EFL's best interests. But he is a massive weapon. Look how many teams have gone bust since he has come into the role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I'm absolutely disgusted by this. I was close to calling it quits with football anyway but this year and how everyone has acted within the game barring very few exceptions is really tipping me over the edge 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, sage owl said: Less league fixtures = more lucrative friendlies . Manchester United Megastars Vs Liverpool Red Thunderfucks in New York and Tokyo and Beijing every few months. It's a brave new world. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 42 minutes ago, alanharper said: It also messes up the current 24/24/24 EFL league structure. Best thing to do would be to relegate 5 teams from the PL into non league this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, No Uniform said: These proposals have been brought by Rick Parry. Is that true? 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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