BIG D 20,798 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I’ve seen it mentioned on Facebook (I know) that it’s exactly a year ago today that we last went in for HT at home ahead. No idea if it’s true or even been posted already Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Crawshaw 1,055 Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, BIG D said: I’ve seen it mentioned on Facebook (I know) that it’s exactly a year ago today that we last went in for HT at home ahead. No idea if it’s true or even been posted already Yep it's true. 22nd October 2019 v Stoke, last time been in the lead at half time at home, 1-0. 20 home matches since then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BIG D 20,798 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: Yep it's true. 22nd October 2019 v Stoke, last time been in the lead at half time at home, 1-0. 20 home matches since then. Christ Almighty Link to post Share on other sites
The Night-Owl 6,093 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Our home form is atrocious. Away from home we look decent. If we don't start winning at home, our home form; lack of goals, inability to kill teams off and conceding of late goals could be our undoing this season. Some of the home games this season have been a slight improvement or closer, yet we're still winless. In our situation being still in negative points, we can ill afford to play so negatively at home or to have such a weak home record. Draws will kill us, especially at home, we should go for it more at home and play 4-3-3 or something similar at home and 3-5-2 away from home. Link to post Share on other sites
0114 4,313 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 39 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: Yep it's true. 22nd October 2019 v Stoke, last time been in the lead at half time at home, 1-0. 20 home matches since then. That’s also the only time we have led at Hillsborough at HT in Monk’s entire tenure. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Crawshaw 1,055 Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, 0114 said: That’s also the only time we have led at Hillsborough at HT in Monk’s entire tenure. Link to post Share on other sites
gurujuan 12,652 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Night-Owl said: Our home form is atrocious. Away from home we look decent. If we don't start winning at home, our home form; lack of goals, inability to kill teams off and conceding of late goals could be our undoing this season. Some of the home games this season have been a slight improvement or closer, yet we're still winless. In our situation being still in negative points, we can ill afford to play so negatively at home or to have such a weak home record. Draws will kill us, especially at home, we should go for it more at home and play 4-3-3 or something similar at home and 3-5-2 away from home. Exactly, we cannot afford to rely on away games to pick up the points We are much improved away from home, but hardly sweeping all before us Although it’s not my cup of tea, if you’re gonna recruit players whose attributes are all about how horrible they are to play against, then get in opponents faces Go at sides from the off, test them out by getting in amongst them If it doesn’t work, at least you’ve given it a go. Why bring in those type of players and then start of in such a passive fashion It doesn’t make sense 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 5,411 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 This home record is a stick to beat Monk with. How can it not be? We don’t improve this record quickly, we’re down. Simple as that. Interesting that one one or two poor stats when Monk was supposedly conquering all before him are starting to emerge? Link to post Share on other sites
S36 OWL 51,847 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 53 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: Yep it's true. 22nd October 2019 v Stoke, last time been in the lead at half time at home, 1-0. 20 home matches since then. Brings back memories of the 1974/75 season all over again. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Watto 1,319 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Brings back memories of the 1974/75 season all over again. I've just had a look at our Home results for that season and we dint win for 11 games from Dec 74 through to Sep 75 ( 2nd home game of the 75/76 season) . We have now gone 9 games without winning at Home , Charlton in February, so 2 more winless games and we equal that run. Unless anyone knows any better I'd say this is as bad as it's been in my living memory , I'm 56 btw ! Link to post Share on other sites
alanharper 32,028 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Home form.....how bad is it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
full fathom five 4,947 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, 0114 said: That’s also the only time we have led at Hillsborough at HT in Monk’s entire tenure. An amazing statistic shows his tactics/management isn't working at Hillsborough. Edited October 22, 2020 by full fathom five 1 Link to post Share on other sites
@owlstalk 37,437 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jim said: This home record is a stick to beat Monk with. How can it not be? We don’t improve this record quickly, we’re down. Simple as that. Interesting that one one or two poor stats when Monk was supposedly conquering all before him are starting to emerge? We're still bedding in a whole new coaching staff, a brand new squad etc? 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to post Share on other sites
BIG D 20,798 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Watto said: I've just had a look at our Home results for that season and we dint win for 11 games from Dec 74 through to Sep 75 ( 2nd home game of the 75/76 season) . We have now gone 9 games without winning at Home , Charlton in February, so 2 more winless games and we equal that run. Unless anyone knows any better I'd say this is as bad as it's been in my living memory , I'm 56 btw ! I know a wins a win and all that but if hadn't been for Fletchers late, late goal against Charlton we would have been adding another 7 games onto that winless home run. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
full fathom five 4,947 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, BIG D said: I know a wins a win and all that but if hadn't been for Fletchers late, late goal against Charlton we would have been adding another 7 games onto that winless home run. Frightening stats Link to post Share on other sites
Watto 1,319 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Yes 1 win in the last 15 at Hillsborough ! I reckon this has got to be the poorest form we've ever had at Home in living memory 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Athelwulf 3,918 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 No manager could survive a run like that. ...Apart from at this club. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Athelwulf 3,918 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Hack-Abusi said: The thing is .. and its tough for a lot to swallow .. a lot of fans, myself included But this current form, this turgid style, this grinding out games is indicative of what Monk did with Birmingham and under very similar circumstances, refreshed a bloated squad, debts, points deduction etc. Its all just to get us to safety. We can't expect amazing football and pumping teams week in week out. Monk will just do enough and it's not gonna be pretty. We're gonna be languishing around mid to bottom table and we have to either accept that or ... well what else can we do apart from moaning about it and want change (then who knows what will happen) The football isn't the problem, the results are. The football was bob under Gray, but he delivered the points. He saved us from certain relegation, whereas under Monk we're going down. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 5,411 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 35 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: We're still bedding in a whole new coaching staff, a brand new squad etc? I’m not going to argue because there is a case to say that. Personally I don’t buy into the new players excuse much because he’s still relying on a fair few that were responsible for the failures of last season? He’s talked about having players available for 40 games or more yet he brings in Brown who has a track record for being injured and lo and behold he’s missed half of our championship games already. He won’t get a full season out of Luongo. Does he bring in a decent understudy? No he re-signs Pelupessy then picks a young playmaker ahead of him first time he’s missing. He wants to play 3-5-2. Most of us know we haven’t got the players to play wing-back. Does he go out and get one or two? No. He brings in 2 more centre-backs and re-calls Van Aken. He also continually picks a keeper who is non-league standard at best. Even opposition players know our keeper is a weak link. We know he is but we all know who doesn’t? If he keeps us up he’s done a good job. No doubt about that but he doesn’t mean he’s the right man for the long term? I think the current home run tells you everything you need to know about Monk. He doesn’t have a clue on how to get on the front foot and the situation we’re currently in requires us to do this more often than not? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BIG D 20,798 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 22/10/2020 at 12:19, Tommy Crawshaw said: Yep it's true. 22nd October 2019 v Stoke, last time been in the lead at half time at home, 1-0. 20 home matches since then. Dull manager, dull performances. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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