@owlstalk Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, PEARSON said: I think people are getting angry at nothing here. This is what people said when Boxing first got suggested as a Pay Per View Event It's also what some fans said when Chansiri first mentioned he might put the ticket prices up at SWFC Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 As said above Sky / BT will still want the neutral puller games on their subscription service not PPV. I am happy to pay my sports subscriptions because I get value out of it and don't want the hassle of streams and IPTV And I like to watch the big games as part of this. Take them away they start to lose subscribers which is where they get value. Sky /BT also don't want to show the other games as it dilutes the value of the existing rights. And were not prepared to pay extra As far as I understand the Clubs not the TV companies will get the PPV revenues, subject to a fee presumably for using their Box Office infrastructure. I am not sure why a tenner for Ifollow is deemed expensive either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, mkowl said: I am not sure why a tenner for Ifollow is deemed expensive either I guess because you have the income that means it isn't I guess it soon will be for most though with millions of impending job losses 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEARSON Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: This is what people said when Boxing first got suggested as a Pay Per View Event It's also what some fans said when Chansiri first mentioned he might put the ticket prices up at SWFC Well, only time will tell but I don’t think big premier league games will go PPV because I think BT/Sky are already competing against internet streams and each other. Keeping subscribers happy will be there main interest, I doubt they’d push people away by making the games they know are the main reason people subscribe less accessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I guess because you have the income that means it isn't I guess it soon will be for most though with millions of impending job losses Two different considerations My point is that to pay £10 to watch a multi angle live stream with commentary is not bad value for money. Folk pay 6 quid just to park the car near the stadium at other times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, PEARSON said: Well, only time will tell but I don’t think big premier league games will go PPV because I think BT/Sky are already competing against internet streams and each other. Keeping subscribers happy will be there main interest, I doubt they’d push people away by making the games they know are the main reason people subscribe less accessible. My view is the opposite I think they'll chase profits pure and simple and if that means putting PPV events on at £30/£40 a game they wouldn't think twice about doing it Football priced many working men out of the game with their ticket pricing in recent years and made it more for the affluent The affluent can afford £30 a game They'll do it Nailed on 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, mkowl said: My point is that to pay £10 to watch a multi angle live stream with commentary is not bad value for money. Folk pay 6 quid just to park the car near the stadium at other times True Neither is good value for money and both are because there is no real alternative really Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: My view is the opposite I think they'll chase profits pure and simple and if that means putting PPV events on at £30/£40 a game they wouldn't think twice about doing it Football priced many working men out of the game with their ticket pricing in recent years and made it more for the affluent The affluent can afford £30 a game They'll do it Nailed on Why haven't they done it in the past The ability to do so has been there The investor analysts focus on subscription numbers and the churn rate - you would rather have the guarantee of regular subscribers monies than irregular PPV income Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: True Neither is good value for money and both are because there is no real alternative really What do you think is fair value out of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I guess because you have the income that means it isn't I guess it soon will be for most though with millions of impending job losses In that case people would not be able to afford to go to games , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, mkowl said: Why haven't they done it in the past The ability to do so has been there Because the timing wasn't right Fans were able to go to the stadiums and watch the games live Now there is not just an opportunity but a massive obvious immediate golden egg to go for it right now Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbinTheDonkey Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, pazowl55 said: How?? They would have hit the jackpot.!! They are being shown on sky sports and bt sport's box office channels. If these prove successful and for certain clubs clubs, Man Utd, Liverpool, Leeds etc they could be very popular, why have a middle man take his cut when you could host it yourself and take all the income. Leeds were already moaning that when it came to live Championship games they pulled in more viewers than other clubs, even though the money received was equal, match fee apart. So we now could be going into a situation where clubs could themselves charge between £20- £30, take the whole fee, have thousands paying it. Then get more advertisement for their TV channel. If fans prefer to stay home it could lead to less outgoings on match day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbinTheDonkey Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, mkowl said: Why haven't they done it in the past The ability to do so has been there The investor analysts focus on subscription numbers and the churn rate - you would rather have the guarantee of regular subscribers monies than irregular PPV income It will be a PPV season ticket, if clubs have their own deals. If it's still the TV men, I could see a package season ticket. Edited October 10, 2020 by DobbinTheDonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 It's kind of crazy the money situation in football is all down to companies paying to advertise on TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Our loyalty as a football fan has always been exploited to a degree. But what is happening now takes that exploitation to a very unsavory level, we're been ripped off, during a pandemic, with people struggling to make ends meet, but will we do anything about it or will we carry on regardless getting our footballing fix from the TV overlords? Well I'm out, it was bad enough ifollow increasing prices by 30% even though they had a huge increase in subscribers, but I refuse to roll over and have my tummy tickled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Nothing money related that goes on in football surprises me any more. It's a grubby free-for-all of everyone lining their own pockets at the expense of the fans, and it gets more obscene every year. Not one thing about it is sustainable or makes any financial sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Especially with Wednesday, the quality on show isn’t enough to warrant the price, even for £10 on ifollow Which is why I choose to stream as if it cuts out I’m rarely bothered anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 13 hours ago, jamiejohn said: This comes as no surprise to me as I believe that the long held aim of the really big clubs as been to have all games on PPV . That they have used a pandemic to bring it in 100% this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I'd be interested to know what percentage the club gets from any PPV matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Because the timing wasn't right Fans were able to go to the stadiums and watch the games live Now there is not just an opportunity but a massive obvious immediate golden egg to go for it right now Seize the day and all that. You can almost hear them saying " we can't let this chance go " Implement the policy whilst it's mandatory, build on it's value.... different sales level of game angles, after match interviews, etc etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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