Inspector Lestrade Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, adelphi1867 said: If you saw your neighbors house being broke into would you call the police?. Or if the house was on fire would you call the Fire service?. That attitude just sums up society today. fizz YOU I AM ALRIGHT. It's not todays society though is it ? If a company is going broke no one has ever stepped in to save it unless there was something in it for them. Welcome to Thatcher's Britain!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 How ironic that we have a chairman that wants to spend cash but isn't allowed, but we are allowed to take assistance funding from the Premier League. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Says it all when he refers to the EFL as competitors rather than part of the same pyramid without which the Premier League wouldn’t exist. If the bottom of the pyramid collapses the top collapses with it. I’ve said it before but the more I hear from the Premier League the less I want our club to be part of it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, mogbad said: Says it all when he refers to the EFL as competitors rather than part of the same pyramid without which the Premier League wouldn’t exist. If the bottom of the pyramid collapses the top collapses with it. I’ve said it before but the more I hear from the Premier League the less I want our club to be part of it. They are competitors they are vying for fans, television deals, sponsorship etc The strong get stronger the weak can go and .... themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, vulva said: Football has missed a huge opportunity with Covid. They had a chance to reconnect the game with real world. They’ve missed that opportunity and will pay for it for generations. I’m convinced people have, and will continue to walk away from the game. Turkeys have voted for Christmas here. Perhaps much worse than that. The current season is remarkable - some incredible results and performances, without crowds influencing refs and results. And with VAR the cheating that likes of man utd did no longer possible. Most people will take the PL at it is this season - big boys being tonked by 5,6 or 7 - fake crowd noise and loads of games on tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonowl Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, mogbad said: Says it all when he refers to the EFL as competitors rather than part of the same pyramid without which the Premier League wouldn’t exist. If the bottom of the pyramid collapses the top collapses with it. I’ve said it before but the more I hear from the Premier League the less I want our club to be part of it. I think you are seriously underestimating the power of the PL. If league 1 and 2 went bust tomorrow, PL would be pretty much unaffected. If championship went as well, they would simply reintroduce reserve leagues so Chelsea B, Chelsea C and Chelsea D would give their younger players game time rather than loaning them out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockieOwl Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Should Tesco be bailing out the local corner shop? Are people being stopped from going into the corner shop? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, RockieOwl said: Are people being stopped from going into the corner shop? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Parish should be careful, Palace likely to be back in the EFL in the not too distant future. While I can understand his argument and agree in principle, the PL have irreparable changed the ecosystem of football, have a stranglehold on money coming into the game and offer scraps (relatively speaking) in solidarity payments to ease their greedy conscience. Without the lower leagues and the notion of promotion and relegation, the PL would be a very stale league, significantly devalued and they should do well to remember that. The EFL would also do well to remember that and stop being blackmailed by the PL, grow a set of balls and start to represent member clubs in the manner they deserve, not selling themselves short, pretending the entire football fan base is 12 years old and hero worships whoever is flavour of the day in a vastly overhyped PL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockieOwl Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, Inspector Lestrade said: No So its not a good comparison then. If people couldn't go into Tesco and the local shop, but Tesco was still receiving most of its money through other means but the corner shop wasn't, then it would be a fair comparison but its not. The guy from Palace is just pure selfish in his thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, mcmigo said: Easy way round this so it isnt a bail out in explicit terms. Use the finance bill to add in a windfall tax on the TV money being paid to the Premier League. Then at the same time eliminate employers NIC, VAT and any other business taxes on rest of football clubs Govt also provides interest free loans to clubs outside PL, repayment trigger when football clubs return to 85% of 2018/29 turnover. I can see the windfall tax idea as a workable one if the EPL clubs refuse to help. Not sure how the tax changes can work because they have to apply across the board. Though a 25% employers NI rate on those earning over 20k a week might work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Let’s not forget that the ‘English’ Premier League is dominated by foreign players, owners and managers, and is funded by foreign money. It’s effectively an NFL style franchise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 It isn't the same relationship. Football clubs as businesses are much more connected than Tescos and the corner shop. The analogy is complete bo11ocks tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningaround Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Should go to L1 and lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Should Tesco be bailing out the local corner shop? Do TESCO buy produce from the local corner shop?.....no, do TESCO lend their produce to the local shop to develop it?........ again, no That isn't a valid comparison, it's just a soundbite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, RockieOwl said: So its not a good comparison then. If people couldn't go into Tesco and the local shop, but Tesco was still receiving most of its money through other means but the corner shop wasn't, then it would be a fair comparison but its not. The guy from Palace is just pure selfish in his thinking So a company in danger of going bust because their customers cannot access their shop must bail out another shop who are in the same predicament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Do Tescos pay solidarity payments to the corner shop? Do the corner shops get parachute payments from Tescos if they have to downsize? Does Tescos actively recruit staff from the corner shop and pay them a transfer fee when doing so? Do corner shops get promoted to the same level as Tescos and then relegated? What Parrish is trying to say is: *we are in the Prem and we don't give a poo about the rest of you. Cheers.* Interestingly, I've read one of the many stipulations attached to said funding is theyll be no promotion or relegation if the PL or Champ do not complete 75 percent of their season. Wonder which clubs were pushing for that then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: So a company in danger of going bust because their customers cannot access their shop must bail out another shop who are in the same predicament? How much did PL clubs just spend in the transfer window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, nbupperthongowl said: Do TESCO buy produce from the local corner shop?.....no, do TESCO lend their produce to the local shop to develop it?........ again, no That isn't a valid comparison, it's just a soundbite I don't see what that has to with it, they are a separate entity why should one club be responsible for another club? Morally I can see and support your view but why is football somehow different to all other businesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, mkowl said: I can see the windfall tax idea as a workable one if the EPL clubs refuse to help. Not sure how the tax changes can work because they have to apply across the board. Though a 25% employers NI rate on those earning over 20k a week might work Could they levy VAT on premier League transfer fees, 20% of the money spent would sort out the EFL clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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