@owlstalk Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, cowl said: I did the other day - posting a lengthy appraisal of Monk's time at the club. You met it with ‘IN OTHER WORDS MONK WAS RIGHT’. Or something like that. At least you didn't let it play on your mind all week and moved on though mate #survivalist Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Can you point me to one single example when that's been the case under Chansiri? He doesn't work like that The last season was freakishly extended, prior to lockdown the fans had turned against Monk, had the season continued Monk would have gone due to the lower numbers of fans attending/leaving early in a poisonous atmosphere thus resulting in lower season ticket sales. Even though DC claims our ticket sales don't matter let's see how that works out. Add that to the unprecedented position of us starting a season on -12 points the start of this season was always going to be perilous. DC won't be the fall guy, Monk wiĺl. Regardless of how DC works, the combination of Monk's abject results, the current financial/support/merchandise loss added to the increasing pressure from the EFL to keep our house in order (i believe we are late with the next set of accounts) All adds up to DC not working as he normally does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: In amongst absolute tantrums and dummy spitting Let's eradicate the nonsense and up the quality as just hearing the same posters posting about the same reasons they want Monk gone over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over is dull as dishwater now If the reason is valid then that is why they post it. The main reason being his 2020 record. It is that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, 0114 said: The comparison was made off your basis that out of work managers are no good... Not what I said. I said that was why 'McCarthy' is unemployed, but like I say, we'll see where McCarthy ends up next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, full fathom five said: The last season was freakishly extended, prior to lockdown the fans had turned against Monk, had the season continued Monk would have gone due to the lower numbers of fans attending/leaving early in a poisonous atmosphere thus resulting in lower season ticket sales. Even though DC claims our ticket sales don't matter let's see how that works out. If we can't attend games or sell tickets why would Chansiri sack Monk for lack of ticket sales???? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, DSandersonOWL said: If the reason is valid then that is why they post it. The main reason being his 2020 record. It is that simple. Do you always hang on to the previous season for ALL managers and players? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: At least you didn't let it play on your mind all week and moved on though mate #survivalist It's amazing that I can remember something that happened 2 days ago. But yeah, let's go full-on mature and discuss things sensibly. Please, lead the way... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, cowl said: It's amazing that I can remember something that happened 2 days ago. But yeah, let's go full-on mature and discuss things sensibly. Please, lead the way... I am doing but (As usual) you're trying to derail the thread with immature personal attacks Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: I think a lot of fans are being realistic and are quite understandably fed up of conceding daft last minute goals. It’s a complete sucker punch and it’s happening time and time again. I said in pre-season, Monk has lost too many games to turn it around here. I’d love to back the bloke but the football is negative and I don’t agree with his tactics and I don’t get his decisions. He has his own men in now. He’s signed his own players. There’s no more excuses. But today was scarily familiar to last season. Pretty much. I saw the same sh*te I was largely watching last season. Slow and sluggish start with little in the way of tempo and energy. We picked up a bit in the second half and then a combination of bad luck and bad old habits came back to haunt us yet again. Honestly, what is Garry Monk's method for consistently winning games at this level? Because he's going to need to work one out this season, otherwise we are absolutely going down, no question. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I think we've reached a point now where those who don't want Monk are just repetitively posting the same angry nonsense over and over again We hear you You don't want Monk It would be refreshing if you could engage in a more intelligent mature manner and discuss things constructively, maturely, and sensibly instead of just firing the same nonsense over and over and over and over again. We get it You don't want Monk But come on... let's up the standard of debate a little eh? You are the one who's running out of excuses after nailing your colours to the Monk mast. Instead of giving reasons to continue to back Monk your repeating angry nonsense trying to push your pro Monk stance over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Do you always hang on to the previous season for ALL managers and players? Monk's appalling 2020 record includes this vital season. He needs to get a grip this season. Last season is water under the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, full fathom five said: You are the one who's running out of excuses after nailing your colours to the Monk mast. Instead of giving reasons to continue to back Monk your repeating angry nonsense trying to push your pro Monk stance over and over again. DISCUSS THE TOPIC NOT THE POSTER Ta Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, DSandersonOWL said: Monk's appalling 2020 record includes this vital season. He needs to get a grip this season. Last season is water under the bridge. That's fair enough Let's hope for improvements that can make everyone happy again Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Looking forward to some mature discussion now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: If we can't attend games or sell tickets why would Chansiri sack Monk for lack of ticket sales???? You know damn well if we could attend games, lower crowds/revenue are the one thing owners take notice of, any that don't it doesn't end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, full fathom five said: You know damn well if we could attend games, lower crowds/revenue are the one thing owners take notice of, any that don't it doesn't end well. Yeah I get that But we can't attend games Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 You want to give him a chance, but f00king hell it would be nice to see some sort of proper improvement. Today was so bloody groundhog day it was mildly depressing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SiJ said: Pretty much. I saw the same sh*te I was largely watching last season. Slow and sluggish start with little in the way of tempo and energy. We picked up a bit in the second half and then a combination of bad luck and bad old habits came back to haunt us yet again. Honestly, what is Garry Monk's method for consistently winning games at this level? Because he's going to need to work one out this season, otherwise we are absolutely going down, no question. I genuinely don’t think we’ll go down. We’ve cut the deficit in only 4 games so I don’t see any danger over the next 42 Lomg term I don’t see Monk being successful here. To succeed at Wednesday we tend to need a big personality. A manager who we believe in and can get behind. Monk isn’t it imo Edited October 3, 2020 by Django 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Yeah I get that But we can't attend games Lucky for us and Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, SiJ said: Today was so bloody groundhog day it was mildly depressing. I don't disagree 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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