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44 minutes ago, S36 OWL said:

 

Sadly we have a clueless owner who seems happy to see his club in league one next season, because that's exactly where we are heading under Monk 

If it wasn't for covid Monk would be gone because crowds would be seriously down and the sight of home fans booing and heading for the exits would be enough to see the back of Monk. Monk is very very very lucky these circumstances exist but it isn't going to save him forever.

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3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

I'm finding it interesting to see which fans are up for the tough season ahead, and who's already given up, thrown the towel in and started crying after just a few games

 

All I ever read from supporters of Monk are excuse after excuse for his failings. They love an excuse. I don't find that interesting, but it's very revealing that they put their support for a manager ahead of what's best for the club. 

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Just now, full fathom five said:

If it wasn't for covid Monk would be gone because crowds would be seriously down and the sight of home fans booing and heading for the exits would be enough to see the back of Monk. 

 


Can you point me to one single example when that's been the case under Chansiri?

He doesn't work like that


 


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Just now, cowl said:

 

All I ever read from supporters of Monk are excuse after excuse for his failings. They love an excuse. I don't find that interesting, but it's very revealing that they put their support for a manager ahead of what's best for the club. 



All  I ever read from Monk haters are that valid REASONS are deemed as excuses. 

They love claiming they're excuses

I don't find that interesting but it's very revealing they put their hate for a manager ahead of what's best for the club


 


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1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said:


I think a lot of fans are being realistic and are quite understandably fed up of conceding daft last minute goals. It’s a complete sucker punch and it’s happening time and time again. 
 

I said in pre-season, Monk has lost too many games to turn it around here. I’d love to back the bloke but the football is negative and I don’t agree with his tactics and I don’t get his decisions. 
 

He has his own men in now. He’s signed his own players. There’s no more excuses. But today was scarily familiar to last season. 


Agree with this,  I’m not a Monk out supporter but it’s starting to worry me how similar to last season the performances have been.  In the second halves against Watford and Bristol city and most of today’s game we don’t seem to have improved very much.  Hopefully during the next 2 weeks we will see more arrivals and improvements from training 

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Just now, @owlstalk said:



All  I ever read from Monk haters are that valid REASONS are deemed as excuses. 

They love claiming they're excuses

I don't find that interesting but it's very revealing they put their hate for a manager ahead of what's best for the club

 

No one has reason to hate him, yet... !

 

Monk's record is hardly what's best for the club. 

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1 minute ago, @owlstalk said:



All  I ever read from Monk haters are that valid REASONS are deemed as excuses. 

They love claiming they're excuses

I don't find that interesting but it's very revealing they put their hate for a manager ahead of what's best for the club

 

Give a reason—or even an excuse—for why our defensive issues so impaired what we did in possession today. We could we only muster about 15 minutes of play that was on the front foot?

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I think we've reached a point now where those who don't want Monk are just repetitively posting the same angry nonsense over and over again


We hear you

You don't want Monk

It would be refreshing if you could engage in a more intelligent mature manner and discuss things constructively, maturely, and sensibly instead  of just firing the same nonsense over and over and over and over again.

We get it

You don't want Monk

 

But come on... let's up the standard of debate a little eh?

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1 minute ago, @owlstalk said:



All  I ever read from Monk haters are that valid REASONS are deemed as excuses. 

They love claiming they're excuses

I don't find that interesting but it's very revealing they put their hate for a manager ahead of what's best for the club

 

10 months of 'valid reasons' when the previous 3 months were fine under the same system.

 

Other managers have coped. He has a worse record than Jos did for us.

 

Paul Cooke came back after lock down to find his poor Wigan squad had been deducted 12 points and were going into administration. Did he use it as an excuse? No he rolled his sleeves up and they won more points on the pitch than we did. Poorer squad, points deduction applied and club put into admin from underneath them. Still got results and played decent football.

 

The bright new dawn under Monk is not going to come. You are right though, I need a break from it, I'll leave you to it for tonight. 

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Just now, @owlstalk said:

I think we've reached a point now where those who don't want Monk are just repetitively posting the same angry nonsense over and over again


We hear you

You don't want Monk

It would be refreshing if you could engage in a more intelligent mature manner and discuss things constructively, maturely, and sensibly instead  of just firing the same nonsense over and over and over and over again.

We get it

You don't want Monk

 

But come on... let's up the standard of debate a little eh?

It's well above the standard of debate :  Trump v Biden !

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21 minutes ago, Andrew6666 said:

😆 Let's see where McCarthys next job is at? 

 

I'm sure he'll end up at a top club based on his record. Any club with ambition will be chomping at the bit, oh hang on a minute . . . . .

 

Comparing Bielsa and McCarthy, I'm embarrassed for you 😆😆 

The comparison was made off your basis that out of work managers are no good... 🤦‍♂️

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Just now, @owlstalk said:

I think we've reached a point now where those who don't want Monk are just repetitively posting the same angry nonsense over and over again


We hear you

You don't want Monk

It would be refreshing if you could engage in a more intelligent mature manner and discuss things constructively, maturely, and sensibly instead  of just firing the same nonsense over and over and over and over again.

We get it

You don't want Monk

 

But come on... let's up the standard of debate a little eh?


Some great statistics and debate going on tonight. Highlighting concerns over our home record, our shocking record at conceding late goals since his arrival and his style of football. 
 

You’re the only one posting the same nonsense 

 

lol

 

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5 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said:

I'd say the injures to Iorfa, Shaw, Palmer and Lees played a pretty big role in that result today, as did Luongo's miss in the final few minutes.

 

Terrible luck has done for us today.

They missed a big chance before we scored too , so we got lucky there . 

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Just now, @owlstalk said:

I think we've reached a point now where those who don't want Monk are just repetitively posting the same angry nonsense over and over again


We hear you

You don't want Monk

It would be refreshing if you could engage in a more intelligent mature manner and discuss things constructively, maturely, and sensibly instead  of just firing the same nonsense over and over and over and over again.

We get it

You don't want Monk

 

But come on... let's up the standard of debate a little eh?

 

I did the other day - posting a lengthy appraisal of Monk's time at the club. You met it with ‘IN OTHER WORDS MONK WAS RIGHT’. Or something like that.

 

You reap what you sow. If you want constructive, mature and sensible discussion then I suggest you lead by example.

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Just now, SallyCinnamon said:


Some great statistics and debate going on tonight. Highlighting concerns over our home record, our shocking record at conceding late goals since his arrival and his style of football.  

 


In amongst absolute tantrums and dummy spitting


Let's eradicate the nonsense and up the quality as just hearing the same posters posting about the same reasons they want Monk gone over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over and  over and over and over and over is dull as dishwater now


 


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1 minute ago, cowl said:

 

I did the other day - posting a lengthy appraisal of Monk's time at the club. You met it with ‘IN OTHER WORDS MONK WAS RIGHT’. Or something like that. 



At least you didn't let it play on your  mind all week and moved on though mate 👊

 

#survivalist


 


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1 minute ago, @owlstalk said:

 


Can you point me to one single example when that's been the case under Chansiri?

He doesn't work like that

The last season was freakishly extended, prior to lockdown the fans had turned against Monk, had the season continued Monk would have gone due to the lower numbers of fans attending/leaving early in a poisonous atmosphere thus resulting in lower season ticket sales. Even though DC claims our ticket sales don't matter🤣 let's see how that works out. Add that to the unprecedented position of us starting a season on -12 points the start of this season was always going to be perilous. DC won't be the fall guy, Monk wiĺl. Regardless of how DC works, the combination of Monk's abject results, the current financial/support/merchandise loss added to the increasing pressure from the EFL to keep our house in order (i believe we are late with the next set of accounts) All adds up to DC not working as he normally does.

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