cowl Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, Ian said: depends on how much you know about his fitness at that point? He didn't seem to be flagging, and unless he communicated to the bench he needed to come off, it's hard to fathom given how Paterson had already started to blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, 0114 said: The frustration for me has come from more than one performance. Today is something we’ve seen too often. I can’t get behind someone who doesn’t try to win football matches at home. 1 win in 14 games at Hillsborough in 2020. 3 first half goals in 12 months at Hillsborough. Only lead once at HT at home in 12 months. When was the last time we really put a team to sword at Hillsborough? Jos luhukay against Norwich. 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, McRightSide said: Long ball first half Get a goal We’re doing well and on top Brings off FDB who is just getting into the game Goes backs the the wall with 35 mins left Inverts the wingers despite the wingers being on the right side serving us PERFECTLY WELL Absolutely clueless joke of a manager Only silver lining is that the Monk apologists can now see it clearly Oh and Van Aken was poo all day and bailed out a dozen times by Lees who was OUTSTANDING fizz off Monk, UTO Disagree with that you mothers Monk apologists are still in denial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Andrew6666 said: I would rather keep Monk. The names being put forth previously are awful. We need to move forward with new ideas, not an old man with ancient ideas. For what it's worth I wanted Rowatt. What year were McCarthys achievements that you point out with Sunderland and Wolves? So McCarthy is good because he did nothing with Ipswich, left, then another manager came in and was worse? If he leads with that at job interviews I think he may struggle. He had Ipswich punching way above their weight. Hence why they went down with about 3 wins when he left. Want to tell me the year of any of Monk’s title wins? Or even a year when he got a team in the play offs? Mick’s experienced at this level. For a club in our predicament, I don’t think we could do better at this moment. I remember Cardiff fans saying the same of Warnock when he was appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, hirstyboywonder said: Why do you expect us to get relegated? Do you not think our squad should be capable of 12 points more than any 3 teams in this division? Coventry, Rotherham, Wycombe, Luton, QPR for example? We have been at least 12 points better than the worst 3 every season for the last 6 seasons, including under the hapless Jos. Squad no where near good enough and 12 points behind. Simple as that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, shezzas left peg said: A professional athlete should be fit enough and able to complete in his sport. Why if Monk thought he was tired didn't he just tell the lad to sit in and let the ball do the work I've no idea. You’re aware of how the lads body works then, you his physiotherapist. You must be in training with him each day then Having him sit in would be pointless as we needed a runner who could close down, hence Joey He’s a young lad with a handful of professional appearances, playing in a tough physical match today. Don’t forget he’s still getting up to speed Throwing on Joey didn’t cost us 3 bloody pts FFS, next 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, Ian said: We only had 1 shot on target and yet scored.....and you’re clueless on tactics.....if you think we were doing well in the first half you were watching a different game We didn't score from our shot on target. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, vulva said: Squad no where near good enough and 12 points behind. Simple as that. Would you swap our squad with Rotherhm's Wycombe's. QPR's or Coventry's then? We should be 12 points better off than 3 of those over the course of 46 games. If we took 4 points of each of them and matched their results in the rest of the games then we would stay up. An effective manager would make the team better than the sum of its parts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, alanharper said: We didn't score from our shot on target. I know.....your point being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Why do you expect us to get relegated? Do you not think our squad should be capable of 12 points more than any 3 teams in this division? Coventry, Rotherham, Wycombe, Luton, QPR for example? We have been at least 12 points better than the worst 3 every season for the last 6 seasons, including under the hapless Jos. Monk's proving to be as hapless as Jos (never thought I'd see the day we had another manager as bad as Jos) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, full fathom five said: Monk's proving to be as hapless as Jos (never thought I'd see the day we had another manager as bad as Jos) He's making it difficult to argue otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Thread title should be "are we doomed with a fanbase with the level of expectation that ours have given our points deduction, lack of squad quality, and inability to bring in the necessary quality of player to really make a difference' 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Why do you expect us to get relegated? Do you not think our squad should be capable of 12 points more than any 3 teams in this division? Coventry, Rotherham, Wycombe, Luton, QPR for example? We have been at least 12 points better than the worst 3 every season for the last 6 seasons, including under the hapless Jos. Honestly? Probably not, do you? And if so what makes you think that Player for player, and taking the blue and white specs off, are we better than any of those sides, taking away Bannan and Luongo? In terms of quality this side is somewhere between 17-24th, it has shown that for the last year And last years results aren’t on bad tactics alone, that is impossible. They have to take a large share of the blame 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, 0114 said: He had Ipswich punching way above their weight. Hence why they went down with about 3 wins when he left. Want to tell me the year of any of Monk’s title wins? Or even a year when he got a team in the play offs? Mick’s experienced at this level. For a club in our predicament, I don’t think we could do better at this moment. I remember Cardiff fans saying the same of Warnock when he was appointed. Now I can say, "Wow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: So everyone has to doff their caps to him whilst blasting the current manager to smithereens? Got ya As at every club, the manager is brought in to get results, and is quite rightly judged on his results. Monk's record at Hillsbro is horrendous, there is no excusing it. He has failed and the buck for on field results stops at his door. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepcar_lights Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 29 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Does anyone think Pelupessy was the right sub to make 25 / 30 mins from the end of the game? Absolutely not. We were getting into a groove, like you said earlier, Bannan finding players in space and creating opportunities. Seeing him come on was frustrating. He doesn't seem to get near the opposition, so not only was it a crackers swap, but he can't even do the job he's trying to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Thread title should be "are we doomed with a fanbase with the level of expectation that ours have given our points deduction, lack of squad quality, and inability to bring in the necessary quality of player to really make a difference' Ah the old "if everything else fails blame the fans card" unfortunately us fans are powerless to effect what happens on the field of play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Once you know the players are poo it makes the negatives far more bearable Some of you are like a dad watching his kid play football, deluded into thinking he’s good just because he’s your son when in reality they suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, asteener1867 said: Its because we are "Ordinary" Monk is an "Ordinary" manager His tactics are "Ordinary" we have "Ordinary" players The whole set up set up is "Ordinary" You can get by a season in the Championship with that..but this year 12 points deducted is EXTRAordinary Chansiri has gone for "This manager, that manager" The manager has gone for "this player , that player" When even the blindest person can see that we needed to spend money on a Director of football...A proper no nonsense bloke that KNEW football The money we have spent on misfits like Abdi and Rhodes would have got us one.... Chansiri's biggest and first mistake was not bringing in an experienced DOF the day he bought the club. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: He's making it difficult to argue otherwise. Isn't he just. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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