@owlstalk Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Wildsmith and Dawson may well be better now after all the time Westwood has been training with the u23s or whatever. EH? Wildsmith and Dawson WERE the U23's keepers Your logic in this thread is utterly utterly baffling Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: If he's the best keeper in the Championship and had no issues with being managed, clubs would be lining up around the block to sign him This is why manager’s always cover his petulance with the injury stories so as to avoid making him unattractive to other clubs who may be considering moving for him. It’s a shame that he then goes and ramps it up shortly afterwards by declaring himself fit on social media. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, pioowl said: Dont know who it was but someone on here will remember when ,before Monk came someone at the club said something like " we cant play a goalkeeper who cant move " As though he is just shot of a player? Just now, @owlstalk said: Because you haven't answered it You're claiming Westwood should be in the side because he's a great keeper and brings results You're saying that managers should just manage him and get the best out of him But there's not a SINGLE MANAGER or club in the world who's willing to Why is that? Where are they all? Why is nobody wanting him? Would Ozil improve our results? Why aren't we signing Ozil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, Ellis Rimmer said: Would Ozil improve our results? Why aren't we signing Ozil? Oh dear... 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, sonofbert2 said: This is why manager’s always cover his petulance with the injury stories so as to avoid making him unattractive to other clubs who may be considering moving for him. It’s a shame that he then goes and ramps it up shortly afterwards by declaring himself fit on social media. So many mind readers/ people in the know. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HillsboroughOwlNI Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 So is Westwood on his way out, or is this just 8 pages (and counting) debating whether he’s the devil vs the best keeper in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: EH? Wildsmith and Dawson WERE the U23's keepers Your logic in this thread is utterly utterly baffling You're the baffling one, Wildsmith and Dawson are the first team and have been for some years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Yes I get this it is Monks way, I am arguing he isn't right to do it this way. Wildsmith and Dawson may well be better now after all the time Westwood has been training with the u23s or whatever. All about opinions, Monk has assed the situation and moved forward, we only give an opinion from the outside looking in. We get tangled up in all the off field stuff, and it may well be that has nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: You're the baffling one, Wildsmith and Dawson are the first team and have been for some years now SOME YEARS??? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhollywood Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, HillsboroughOwlNI said: So is Westwood on his way out, or is this just 8 pages (and counting) debating whether he’s the devil vs the best keeper in the world? He's still here pal, creating civil war and unrest amongst the supporters. Not Westwoods fault though, it's society in general in 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I don’t care that he used to be the best goalkeeper we had. That fact is now redundant. He’s a lingering fart now which won’t leave 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, rickygoo said: So many mind readers/ people in the know. Ireland, Sunderland, us - there’s a pattern to his behaviour if you look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, tomhollywood said: He's still here pal, creating civil war and unrest amongst the supporters. Not Westwoods fault though, it's society in general in 2020 If Westwood wanted to play football he could move elsewhere If Westwood was that good clubs would be lining up to buy/loan him If Westwood was that good for a club numerous managers wouldn't have frozen him right out of the entire picture If Westwood could be put into a first team and immediately improve things and get results why aren't clubs wanting him? If Westwood didn't have a reputation within football circles why did Chris Kirkland say he definitely DOES? 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Who in their right mind would leave a very well paid job in the twilight of their profession to take a less well paid role? I doubt that hardly anyone on this site would be knocking on the door of their manager demanding to rip up their contract so they could sod off down the road for half the money or less. He will see out his contract if he has any sense and I would hope that should the club ask him to play he would do so with good grace. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, OxonOwl said: I can't remember if he is the best keeper in the Championship. When did he last play? 'YEARS' ago apparently 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhollywood Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: If Westwood wanted to play football he could move elsewhere If Westwood was that good clubs would be lining up to buy/loan him If Westwood was that good for a club numerous managers wouldn't have frozen him right out of the entire picture If Westwood could be put into a first team and immediately improve things and get results why aren't clubs wanting him? If Westwood didn't have a reputation within football circles why did Chris Kirkland say he definitely DOES? Agreed Agreed Agreed Because he's historically disruptive so nobody is bothered Chris Kirkland has no reason to lie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, tomhollywood said: He's still here pal, creating civil war and unrest amongst the supporters. Not Westwoods fault though, it's society in general in 2020 What would you do in his position? Go get a job which pays half the amount he's getting now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Unless he's a cat killer, should be in team. And why give him a new massive contract after Jos binned Westy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: SOME YEARS??? Yes they've been making first team appearances for years now. They're mid 20s don't forget. 6 minutes ago, mrbluesky said: All about opinions, Monk has assed the situation and moved forward, we only give an opinion from the outside looking in. We get tangled up in all the off field stuff, and it may well be that has nothing to do with it. I would like to think that it is solely a footballing decision but the way in which has been done clearly suggests it is not. You don't go from being the 1st choice keeper to never playing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, Inspector Lestrade said: What would you do in his position? Go get a job which pays half the amount he's getting now? So he's just a moneygrabber then? Who knows that by staying it cripples us in how much we can spend on new players/wages - effectively risking relegation for the club Thanks for the clarification Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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