Guest Willow Owl Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, BIG D said: If our keepers were being dropped on form then shouldn’t Westwood have had another chance before the end of the season? Both Dawson & Wildsmith put in performances far worse than Westwood had previously. Doesn’t that suggest there is more of an issue with Westwood if he wasn’t considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Willow Owl said: Doesn’t that suggest there is more of an issue with Westwood if he wasn’t considered. So why did we give him a 3rd new contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 8 hours ago, the_vinyl_frontier said: Yet another Monk fkup. We are in need of a decent first team keeper and we have one in Westwood. Why can't Monk get over himself and start playing him i went home and away and earlier last season he was a disaster nobody argued that he needed to be dropped , then dawson took the mantle . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Owl Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, Grandad said: So why did we give him a 3rd new contract? Monk didn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tommy Crawshaw Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Mountain Owl said: Selective memory. He was a great keeper but thats all in the past. The last half dozen games he played for us he made some horrendous mistakes. The decision is not just based on his character from what I can see. 5 hours ago, Grandad said: Last half dozen? Hull away - They scored with a free header, defender nowhere near him, after Murphy allowed the cross without a challenge. Lost 1-0. Wigan home - won with a clean sheet Leeds home - Draw with a clean sheet Blackburn away - kept us in it in the first half (especially with a double effort from short range) - could have done better with Blackburns first (looping header) but the winner took a huge deflection Swansea home - dropped the ball for Swanseas first (as did Swanseas keeper for Wednesdays first). Clear foul on him preventing him jump for Swanseas 2nd - but yes - could have done better. A bad game. WBA away - could do absolutely nothing about their first as Borner totally lost his man and Palmer cost us the 2nd stood waving his arms in the air for offside To give YOU the benefit - we'd have beat Swansea had he not had a bad game. So he cost us 2 points. Yes in that Swansea draw he made at least 2 world class saves, so it could be said he won us a point. Again in the Leeds home game 2 fantastic saves and Sky's MOM. Only 12 goals conceded in 10 games, hardly disastrous as some make out, especially with what followed after he was dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 8 hours ago, westy365owl said: If you listen to Kirkland interview for under the cosh he alluded to the fact that Westwood has a bit of a name for himself in the game of a trouble maker and issues with his attitude. But to be fair to him he also says he didn't have any issues with him in his time here They seemed to get on well when Kirkland came back to do this piece for SKY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesowl Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Badly managed along with Hutchinson. I hope he finds a club and first team football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlsfaninNorway Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Good. Would be cruel to keep him here and not include him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 It's just another example of our club badly handling one of its most valuable assets From a club that's supposedly learning the lessons of the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 There are players/workers up and down the country that cause unrest, it`s how you deal with it. My feeling is that Monk want`s a whole new fresh start with no distractions, in different times, I`m sure Monk would have handled it differently. On this occasion, Westwood has been put on gardening leave. The simple reason is clash of personalities, no fall outs, they just see things differently. Take Bruce, he hated him at one time (Sunderland) , but then subsequently gave him a 2 year deal with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 No one gave him a new contract ... He gave himself an extension..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 13 hours ago, wakefieldowl said: He should be playing every week, for somebody Indeed, and if it wasn't for his tendency to get injured and allegedly bad attitude, he would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhollywood Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Grandad said: It's just another example of our club badly handling one of its most valuable assets From a club that's supposedly learning the lessons of the past Maybe DC is slowly learning from his mistakes which has been reflected in the recruitment so far. However, from a team point of view, the manager doesn't want KW in the side from a morale point of view for whatever reason? In terms of a sale, because of the current climate, unless a club is desperate for a keeper and willing to pay then they may just bide their time until his contract runs out. Westwood signed his new contract the week before Bruce resigned so was obviously part of Bruce's plans, presume that's why a contract was offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAnotherShez Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 21 hours ago, S36 OWL said: But what happened at Christmas.? Father Christmas gave away his identity at the staff kid's party when he was seen kneeling down praying with a towel over has head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 9 hours ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: They seemed to get on well when Kirkland came back to do this piece for SKY. Like I put he said he didn't have problems with Westwood but he hinted at the fact that Westwood is known in the game as someone who causes problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, mrbluesky said: There are players/workers up and down the country that cause unrest, it`s how you deal with it. My feeling is that Monk want`s a whole new fresh start with no distractions, in different times, I`m sure Monk would have handled it differently. On this occasion, Westwood has been put on gardening leave. The simple reason is clash of personalities, no fall outs, they just see things differently. Take Bruce, he hated him at one time (Sunderland) , but then subsequently gave him a 2 year deal with us. That is terrible management though, he was a key player on big money, you shouldn't put him on gardening leave. He should have found a way to either 1) resolve whatever the issue was and play him or 2) sell him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiffowl06 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Letting the best keeper in the league leave. Incredible really. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, cardiffowl06 said: Letting the best keeper in the league leave. Incredible really. But he’s not the best keeper in the league and hasn’t been for sometime. If he was, we would be getting trampled in the rush to sign him. Combination of loss of form, injury and bloody mindedness have meant the tail end of his career is fizzling out. Shame, but seems true. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhollywood Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: That is terrible management though, he was a key player on big money, you shouldn't put him on gardening leave. He should have found a way to either 1) resolve whatever the issue was and play him or 2) sell him I manage 65 members of staff. Unfortunately I can't sell them or move them on. So the few who are disruptive and create issues are placed where they cause the least disruption. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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