daveyboy66 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, catdog1121 said: I would totally agree, There may be issues with Westwood but the way both Jos and Monk have handled the situation clearly shows they do not know how to handle big time players. Monk and Jos both went for a strategy of getting young players or unknown players, I think its because they cant handle older players that will speak out about poor management decisions. Mick McCarthy said today when discussing Derby as soon as the players start dictating about training or strategies in matches you've lost it and need to get rid...you know the McCarthy that everyone wanted on here 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdog1121 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 4 hours ago, daveyboy66 said: Mick McCarthy said today when discussing Derby as soon as the players start dictating about training or strategies in matches you've lost it and need to get rid...you know the McCarthy that everyone wanted on here Which is why a manager like McCarthy and Bruce dictate things and are able to manage the older more opinionated players... That is the sign of a good manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 02/10/2020 at 12:30, tomhollywood said: Bruce gave him the contract. Chansiri probably trusted Bruce's footballing experience and opinion. The week after Bruce bent the club over and walked out. Club is stuck with him for another 2 years. But at least we got, err, billions in compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 18 hours ago, catdog1121 said: Which is why a manager like McCarthy and Bruce dictate things and are able to manage the older more opinionated players... That is the sign of a good manager. Yes Bruce dictated he got a 2 year contract on 20/40k per week when it was clear to most he was past it Reyt management that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdog1121 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 53 minutes ago, the monk said: Yes Bruce dictated he got a 2 year contract on 20/40k per week when it was clear to most he was past it Reyt management that Compare his records to Jos and Monk... When we played Westwood at the start of last season we got up to 3rd, we all know what happened after Christmas when Westwood was dropped. Not saying that was all down to Westwood but Calamity Dawson as our number 1 does not fill me with confidence, hopefully he will come good but you just know he has a couple of mistakes a game in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, catdog1121 said: Compare his records to Jos and Monk... When we played Westwood at the start of last season we got up to 3rd, we all know what happened after Christmas when Westwood was dropped. Not saying that was all down to Westwood Sounds like you ARE though? 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOwl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 46 minutes ago, catdog1121 said: Compare his records to Jos and Monk... When we played Westwood at the start of last season we got up to 3rd, we all know what happened after Christmas when Westwood was dropped. Not saying that was all down to Westwood but Calamity Dawson as our number 1 does not fill me with confidence, hopefully he will come good but you just know he has a couple of mistakes a game in him. Westwood was dropped for making some mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdog1121 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, GLOwl said: Westwood was dropped for making some mistakes. Dawson has made loads more mistakes.... Yet he is still the number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, catdog1121 said: Dawson has made loads more mistakes.... Yet he is still the number 1. Shows just how bad Westwood is/was then 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdog1121 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Sounds like you ARE though? No it was a combination of Monk freezing out some players and some really questionable tactical decisions which he is continuing this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdog1121 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Shows just how bad Westwood is/was then Or how rubbish Monk is. The results have spoken for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Owl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 2 hours ago, catdog1121 said: Compare his records to Jos and Monk... When we played Westwood at the start of last season we got up to 3rd, we all know what happened after Christmas when Westwood was dropped. Not saying that was all down to Westwood but Calamity Dawson as our number 1 does not fill me with confidence, hopefully he will come good but you just know he has a couple of mistakes a game in him. It was more than a couple of mistakes that got Westwood dropped in the first place. I think the loss of Fletcher had more of an influence than the loss of sponge bob, flannel hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOwl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 2 hours ago, catdog1121 said: Dawson has made loads more mistakes.... Yet he is still the number 1. Dawson has played more games, so yes he will have made more mistakes. If Westwood didn't have a dodgy shoulder and attitude he may well have won his place back and himself played more games. We'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I'll never understand the pro Westwood contingent here. Side before self, every single time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 02/10/2020 at 08:01, Grandad said: It's just another example of our club badly handling one of its most valuable assets From a club that's supposedly learning the lessons of the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ZicoSterland2 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 04/10/2020 at 13:04, the monk said: Yes Bruce dictated he got a 2 year contract on 20/40k per week when it was clear to most he was past it Reyt management that He hasn't looked very past it at Newcastle doing their best since Keegan. Hate potato head but can't knock what he did here or at the pee pots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 04/10/2020 at 14:00, catdog1121 said: When we played Westwood at the start of last season we got up to 3rd, we all know what happened after Christmas when Westwood was dropped Westwood's last game was in November, and our record from his 11 appearances leading up to that was W3 D3 L5. Immediately after he was dropped our record was W4 D2 L0. Whatever led to the post Christmas collapse, there was much more to it than who our goalkeeper was. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, DJMortimer said: Westwood's last game was in November, and our record from his 11 appearances leading up to that was W3 D3 L5. Immediately after he was dropped our record was W4 D2 L0. Let's just post those stats again mate for all those claiming Westwood was the answer to all our problems... Westwood's last game was in November, and our record from his 11 appearances leading up to that was W3 D3 L5. Immediately after he was dropped our record was W4 D2 L0. 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 04/10/2020 at 14:36, @owlstalk said: Sounds like you ARE though? When did they move Christmas to November and is 9th the new 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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