nethertonowl Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Hold on until Burnley sell Tarwkowski, then they will want Dom as well and we could get 15m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, max_7654 said: Also posted this in the transfer thread, A quick look at recent fees for championship CB's shows the following: Adam Webster – Bristol to Brighton (19/20) - £20m-£22m Tyrone Mings – Bournemouth to Villa (19/20) - £20m-£26.5m Ben Gibson – Boro to Burnley (18/19) - £15m Alfie Mawson – Swansea to Fulham (18/19) - £15m-£20m Chris Mepham – Brentford to Bournemouth (18/19) - £12m Ezri Konsa - Brentford to Villa (19/20) - £12m Tomas Kalas – Chelsea to Bristol (19/20) - £8m Iorfa still relatively young, experienced, english, pacy, physically imposing, good on the ball, good injury record etc; certainly competes with the above and ticks all the boxes for mid-lower prem teams (Leeds, Fulham, Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle etc.) Plenty of teams with money to spend are desperate for CB's with not many options around currently. As much as we need to learn from our recent mistakes with outgoings we should be taking advantage of the current market and ideally looking for at least £12m-£15m+ for Iorfa based on the above. A lot of those are pre-Covid. The market has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, max_7654 said: Also posted this in the transfer thread, A quick look at recent fees for championship CB's shows the following: Adam Webster – Bristol to Brighton (19/20) - £20m-£22m Tyrone Mings – Bournemouth to Villa (19/20) - £20m-£26.5m Ben Gibson – Boro to Burnley (18/19) - £15m Alfie Mawson – Swansea to Fulham (18/19) - £15m-£20m Chris Mepham – Brentford to Bournemouth (18/19) - £12m Ezri Konsa - Brentford to Villa (19/20) - £12m Tomas Kalas – Chelsea to Bristol (19/20) - £8m Iorfa still relatively young, experienced, english, pacy, physically imposing, good on the ball, good injury record etc; certainly competes with the above and ticks all the boxes for mid-lower prem teams (Leeds, Fulham, Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle etc.) Plenty of teams with money to spend are desperate for CB's with not many options around currently. As much as we need to learn from our recent mistakes with outgoings we should be taking advantage of the current market and ideally looking for at least £12m-£15m+ for Iorfa based on the above. Agree with that. 12-15 million would be about right . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Might Burnley have a look at him if Tarkowski goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_7654 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dizzys Dad said: All those deals involved a PL team. Watford won’t offer more than £6m. Completely agree but pretty much my point. Iorfa certainly competes with the players in that list and if a team offers the market rate then it would have been good business especially if we can re-invest wisely. But no point selling for peanuts (especially to a championship rival) given some of the transfer fees flying around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Exactly. Good player but he’s not crucial. If we can replace him with a cheaper alternative it’s great business I just hope DC isn’t stubborn and considers any sensible offers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Mick70 said: If we get anywhere near 10 m no brainier? If the above players went for more then he worth 10+ Easy? Isn’t that Sanderson at wolves a cb come rb ? Just like iorfa? Try for him enough change lest for at least one striker maybe 2? We HAVE to start selling players when we can for big fees? Iorfa could quite easily go the way of reach? Fall out of form and worth he’ll of a lot less Then run the risk of relegation as your best player waves goodbye? Can see where you are coming from and hard to argue against it with our recent past history but we are fighting for our lives and now is not the time to be getting rid of the best players. Unless we get lucky and there is two or more clubs after him we won't be getting ten million for him, Watford will be well aware that we are selling club and will try an have our pants down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 If they offer 12.3m I'll shake their hands right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, scilly owl said: If we sell big Dom to Watford all the current whiff of optimism will be obliterated. Dont even answer the phone Monk. Classic fan response. Every player has a price. This unwillingness to sell has been part of our downfall in recent times. We will always replace players. Very, very happy to sell for the right price. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick70 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Then run the risk of relegation as your best player waves goodbye? Can see where you are coming from and hard to argue against it with our recent past history but we are fighting for our lives and now is not the time to be getting rid of the best players. Unless we get lucky and there is two or more clubs after him we won't be getting ten million for him, Watford will be well aware that we are selling club and will try an have our pants down. Yep agree with both points? We have a history of not letting our players go for the correct money down the years? And yep relegation would be a disaster , but sometimes you have to roll the dice? If we could get say Paterson or zohore and lad from wolves and maybe Murphy? Know Bruce said he wouldn’t loan him but may sell?? Then that would be good business in imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: Might Burnley have a look at him if Tarkowski goes Burnley taken Stephens from Brighton I think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, RichSheffWeds said: Burnley taken Stephens from Brighton I think ? Bit cheeky of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 58 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: We criticised DC for screwing up our finances by not selling. Not selling contributed to us having to use grubby fiddles. It's imperative we make at least one big sale per season or our business model will fail again. Anyone saying don't sell is contributing to the problem. We are a business not a family. Bang on! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzys Dad Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said: Burnley taken Stephens from Brighton I think ? Not a centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 I really like Iorfa but, lets face it, he does have that rash moment in him that surfaces often (although it is becoming less often). We should snatch the hand off anyone offering north of £10m (while also negotiating a sensible sell on clause). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 We are not desperate to sell him so dc can just keep turning them down driving the bidding higher anything over 10 million I'll be fine with losing him we have cover when dunkley is fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Never rush into a purchase or a sale unless you're on to a stone wall winner ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_7654 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: A lot of those are pre-Covid. The market has changed. Not convinced that premier league clubs will be affected anywhere near as much as EFL clubs given the bubble they operate in and the transfer fees flying around so far in this window. If we can sell Iorfa at the right level it will have been great business but we certainly shouldn't be selling at a cut-price level to other championship clubs especially now that we at least seem to have the spending side of our budget in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, peggyowl said: The question as always is have we got or can we bring in someone of Iorfas standard. Now if Dunkley gets fit then he could be that player. I'd accept at £10 million with the hope Monk gets half of that to improve the squad. Now if Reach also goes say for £5 million thats a good return and we have some flex Who the hell would pay 5 million for reach ?!?! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, mogbad said: My main concern won’t be selling Iorfa, it will be who we bring in to make sure Borner & Palmer aren’t first choice in a back 3. Lees, Dunkley, Van Aken, Brennan? Ofc, cannot sell Iorfa until Dunkley is fit. And I realise the latter two of those names aren't exactly safe choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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