Holmowl Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 I’m really impressed with our new formation. It really suits our limited squad. We don’t have a striker capable of playing the lone-role. We struggle with a midfield two. We don’t own a left-back. 352 covers up all three deficiencies. Using 352 we have dominated several games or long periods in games. We’ve rarely been overrun. But what about when we have to chase a game? Or when we are dominating but can’t score? Is it enough to swap Rhodes for Kachunga, or Windass for Reach? Probably not. Very samey at best. Instead, I hope we see an exciting and positive change in such games, turning 352 into a very attacking 433:- Iorfa Lees JVA Harris Luongo Bannan Brown Penney Rhodes Windass with one substitution can become Harris Iorfa Lees Penney Luongo Bannan Brown Kachunga Rhodes Windass with Harris and Penney (or Reach) instructed to still play effectively as wing-backs using their outstanding stamina. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthowl Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 What you’re suggesting, for if we’re chasing the game, is more 2-5-3 than 4-3-3. I think we will keep the back three and move to 3-4-3. Kachunga on for Luongo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Dont think Monk has any intention of using a back 4. The likely evolution will be 343. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Holmowl said: I’m really impressed with our new formation. It really suits our limited squad. We don’t have a striker capable of playing the lone-role. We struggle with a midfield two. We don’t own a left-back. 352 covers up all three deficiencies. Using 352 we have dominated several games or long periods in games. We’ve rarely been overrun. But what about when we have to chase a game? Or when we are dominating but can’t score? Is it enough to swap Rhodes for Kachunga, or Windass for Reach? Probably not. Very samey at best. Instead, I hope we see an exciting and positive change in such games, turning 352 into a very attacking 433:- Iorfa Lees JVA Harris Luongo Bannan Brown Penney Rhodes Windass with one substitution can become Harris Iorfa Lees Penney Luongo Bannan Brown Kachunga Rhodes Windass with Harris and Penney (or Reach) instructed to still play effectively as wing-backs using their outstanding stamina. I have thought about this idea yes, and it’s an interesting theory. In fact, it would be possible to field a side that could switch systems as the game dictated WITHOUT the need for substitutes. Using Palmer as an orthodox right back in a 4-3-3, with Harris as a right side forward, or with Harris as a right wing back, and Palmer as the right sided centre back. Obviously this would have worked better with a goal scorer like Murphy operating in the Harris role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan48 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 We've only played 2 games so a way to go before I become impressed with the formation . We still need someone to put the ball in the net and Rhodes and Reach are not the answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, alan48 said: We've only played 2 games so a way to go before I become impressed with the formation . We still need someone to put the ball in the net and Rhodes and Reach are not the answer. No Windass and Rhodes was the answer against Cardiff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan48 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Rhodes is the answer to our striking problem? - no way . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, alan48 said: We've only played 2 games so a way to go before I become impressed with the formation . We still need someone to put the ball in the net and Rhodes and Reach are not the answer. I agree with your reservations about the system being played. Remember we played all last season’s post lockdown games with a 3-5-2 formation with very mixed results. I’m hoping more intensive coaching this season and the newly added players can make it work consistently. The additions of Brown, Dunkley, Van Aken and Penney should in theory make a huge difference to the way the formation functions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Blatter said: I agree with your reservations about the system being played. Remember we played all last season’s post lockdown games with a 3-5-2 formation with very mixed results. I’m hoping more intensive coaching this season and the newly added players can make it work consistently. The additions of Brown, Dunkley, Van Aken and Penney should in theory make a huge difference to the way the formation functions. You still need someone to put the ball in the net though and it seems we are going to attempt to get through the season without one. A bit of a glaring omission if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: You still need someone to put the ball in the net though and it seems we are going to attempt to get through the season without one. A bit of a glaring omission if you ask me. I doubt we’re going to attempt that. Everyone at the club knows we need strikers and lots of deals get done as deadline day approaches. Believe Lestrade. Believe....and it will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blatter said: I doubt we’re going to attempt that. Everyone at the club knows we need strikers and lots of deals get done as deadline day approaches. Believe Lestrade. Believe....and it will happen. People have been saying that for fifty years to me and it happened once. I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 You would like to think a professional footballer getting made £10,000s a week would be able to play more than 1 formation in a season. As for the goal scoring issues as I have said in other thread James Collins is the man, a proven striker at all levels, scores a lot of goal have the physically presents and guess who was his strike partner last season none other than Izzy Brown, so hopefully the partnership can pick up from where they left off and it was also Izzy Brown most productive season for goals playing with Collins. For me a player who will not be as expensive as others mentioned, wont be on a big wage and will score a lot of goals, if given the service something that we don't get with Harris down the wing. Reach playing consistently left wing will offer more goals, assists and a better general all round play he did it for 3 season pre Monk (127 games, 15 goals, 22 assists), that Harris over 10 games, if you really must play Harris put him on the right and he might actually get to the byline and cross a ball in. He is so predictable always cuts in field on his right and in 25+ games has contributed no goal or assist to the team. Reach, Rhodes, Lees, Borner, Palmer etc get dropped after 1 or 2 bad games, Harris if fit play no matter his level of performance. If you don't play Reach consistently in the team then please sell him before he leaves next summer on a free. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Blatter said: I doubt we’re going to attempt that. Everyone at the club knows we need strikers and lots of deals get done as deadline day approaches. Believe Lestrade. Believe....and it will happen. Morning Boris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hirstysfags Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 I do like the look of 4-4-3 to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: People have been saying that for fifty years to me and it happened once. I believe There see ....you’re helping already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Holmowl said: I’m really impressed with our new formation. It really suits our limited squad. We don’t have a striker capable of playing the lone-role. We struggle with a midfield two. We don’t own a left-back. 352 covers up all three deficiencies. Using 352 we have dominated several games or long periods in games. We’ve rarely been overrun. But what about when we have to chase a game? Or when we are dominating but can’t score? Is it enough to swap Rhodes for Kachunga, or Windass for Reach? Probably not. Very samey at best. Instead, I hope we see an exciting and positive change in such games, turning 352 into a very attacking 433:- Iorfa Lees JVA Harris Luongo Bannan Brown Penney Rhodes Windass with one substitution can become Harris Iorfa Lees Penney Luongo Bannan Brown Kachunga Rhodes Windass with Harris and Penney (or Reach) instructed to still play effectively as wing-backs using their outstanding stamina. Just sub off Rhodes for Kachunga and we stand a better chance of scoring with or without a change in formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, shandypants said: Just sub off Rhodes for Kachunga and we stand a better chance of scoring with or without a change in formation. Sadly not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apswfcowl Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Matt Penny is a Left Back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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