Holmowl Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, s6 owl said: You think tying down our best prospects on long term deals is silly? Are either good enough for the Championship? Ive seen very little to say they are. Potential? Yes. But not ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Are either good enough for the Championship? Ive seen very little to say they are. Potential? Yes. But not ready. Thing is somewhere down the line we’ll need them to be ready. There probably will be another exodus of players at the end of the season regardless of what division we’ll be in and we’ll need the Academy lads to be ready then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, mattitheowl said: I know it's en vogue to bash modern football, but if it were truly possible to play 3 games at the highest level in 8 days, don't you think a top team would have figured out how and bene blitzing the world by doing it? Humans aren't robots. Lactic acid doesn't just vanish in minutes. It doesn't matter how fit you are, recovery is one of the most important parts of any athlete's training. When I was running I hit a plateau of fitness I just couldn't get past it. Someone told me to run 3 -5 miles in the morning as well as my normal training schedule in the evening. The difference was incredible, not in terms of speed but in endurance and recovery. I could do a hard 10 mile run and the next day I was ready to go again. OK it's not footbal which uses more muscle groups but I wonder if switching to 2 sessions of training a day would improve recovery. The shorter run doesn't need to be hard, not much more than a jog but it teaches the body that it must recover faster. I'm sure our training experts are aware of this but I don't see any indication they use it. It was just something your post brought back to me. I'm sure our fitness experts don't need any advice from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Are either good enough for the Championship? Ive seen very little to say they are. Potential? Yes. But not ready. They have to be Championship ready to give them reasonable contracts ? That is the thinking that could lose us those players Monk playing these lads give them hope they can break through and win a contract Shaw Hunt and Dele are going to figure in the first team this season so yes they are Championship ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, cbirks said: They didn't get thrown under the bus, they played really well and made a good show of themselves. Played well? It could have been 5-0! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Kagoshimaowl said: Played well? It could have been 5-0! And it could have been 5-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, mogbad said: They've gained valuable experience & didn't capitulate after going 2 down. If anybody threw them under a bus it was the senior pros like Borner, Palmer & Reach who didn't match the youngsters effort & application. We had no chance of winning. It’s fine giving youngsters games but it should have been a mix of our fitter best players like Bannan and Iorfa alongside the young uns. A better experience for them and actually gives us a slim chance of winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 All I can say is you lit must like losing? I personally hate losing. That was a ridiculous starting eleven and anyone who paid a tennner for that should be refunded by Monk. It was obvious we wouldn’t even score let alone win. Im glad some of the young lads did ok. Shaw especially looked decent before my feed packed in, but I still don’t get why we couldn’t have gone for it a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kagoshimaowl said: We had no chance of winning. It’s fine giving youngsters games but it should have been a mix of our fitter best players like Bannan and Iorfa alongside the young uns. A better experience for them and actually gives us a slim chance of winning. Why on earth would we do that given our league position? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imre Varadi's Conker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Bang goes the dream of losing 8-1 on agg to Man C in a league cup semi-final. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 9 hours ago, prowl said: When I was running I hit a plateau of fitness I just couldn't get past it. Someone told me to run 3 -5 miles in the morning as well as my normal training schedule in the evening. The difference was incredible, not in terms of speed but in endurance and recovery. I could do a hard 10 mile run and the next day I was ready to go again. OK it's not footbal which uses more muscle groups but I wonder if switching to 2 sessions of training a day would improve recovery. The shorter run doesn't need to be hard, not much more than a jog but it teaches the body that it must recover faster. I'm sure our training experts are aware of this but I don't see any indication they use it. It was just something your post brought back to me. I'm sure our fitness experts don't need any advice from me. That small run is literally recovery. That's what professional athletes do. You're working the lactate out of your muscles. Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Kagoshimaowl said: All I can say is you lit must like losing? I personally hate losing. That was a ridiculous starting eleven and anyone who paid a tennner for that should be refunded by Monk. It was obvious we wouldn’t even score let alone win. Im glad some of the young lads did ok. Shaw especially looked decent before my feed packed in, but I still don’t get why we couldn’t have gone for it a bit more. It was that obvious that their keeper made at least 4 very good saves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Kagoshimaowl said: Played well? It could have been 5-0! Classic negative post , you didn't see the sitters we created then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 13 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Why on earth would we do that given our league position? Because winning breeds confidence. That defeat could set us back. Of course if we beat Bristol on Sunday all will be forgotten but we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 hours ago, the monk said: Classic negative post , you didn't see the sitters we created then ? Ok 5-2. Happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 5 hours ago, mattitheowl said: That small run is literally recovery. That's what professional athletes do. You're working the lactate out of your muscles. Thanks, I've never known the science behind it just the remarkable effect. If it has the same effct as recovery do our players do it I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Kagoshimaowl said: Ok 5-2. Happy? Always, you ought to give it a go ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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