Inspector Lestrade Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Bannofan said: Are you trying to equate a general song - like ' Oh Sheffield is wonderful' - with direct, sustained personal abuse of female stewards just doing their job? Really? ...and it's living in a 'PC World' to point out such abuse shouldn't happen? All this is because the perpetrator is a loud mouthed attention seeking Sheffield Wednesday supporter? Unbelievable. No just opening out the debate, there are other songs in which women are derided and the song often directed at one particular woman. I agree with you that no one should suffer personal abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJayOne Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: If he was banned for two years, he's only halfway through his ban. Unless it was later reduced for some reason? It was initially a two year ban. He appealed. An independent panel was set up to review it and Tango was very contrite, admitting his wrongdoing and agreeing to always adhere to the rules, to remain seated and to dress appropriately from now on, etc. The review took that into account and reduced it to one year. Tango then went on to complain via the Football Supporters Association to the Independent Football Ombudsman. A full investigation took place with evidence provided by the club (including lots of complaints from Wednesday fans about his behaviour) and by the FSA on behalf of Tango. The result of the IFO investigation was that they thought the one year ban was actually too lenient in the circumstances and Tango was lucky to have only received a one year ban. As far as the length of the ban is concerned, the IFO considers the complainant fortunate not to have received a longer ban in light of the seriousness of the abuse directed at the female stewards, and the fact that he had also been ejected at the Rotherham match when abuse of stewards had also featured. 1 SHEFFIELD SHOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, DeeJayOne said: It was initially a two year ban. He appealed. An independent panel was set up to review it and Tango was very contrite, admitting his wrongdoing and agreeing to always adhere to the rules, to remain seated and to dress appropriately from now on, etc. The review took that into account and reduced it to one year. Tango then went on to complain via the Football Supporters Association to the Independent Football Ombudsman. A full investigation took place with evidence provided by the club (including lots of complaints from Wednesday fans about his behaviour) and by the FSA on behalf of Tango. The result of the IFO investigation was that they thought the one year ban was actually too lenient in the circumstances and Tango was lucky to have only received a one year ban. I wonder if we can use his legal team to oversee our appeal against the EFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BelgiqueOwl Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 20 hours ago, @owlstalk said: I think 99.99999% of fans who criticise or give Tango grief are just jealous that he's a more high profile fan than they are Nothing more than that really Just pure jealousy That big fat whopper, along with the clown from pitsmoor and our Boy Scout band make us a right laughingstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, DeeJayOne said: It was initially a two year ban. He appealed. An independent panel was set up to review it and Tango was very contrite, admitting his wrongdoing and agreeing to always adhere to the rules, to remain seated and to dress appropriately from now on, etc. The review took that into account and reduced it to one year. Tango then went on to complain via the Football Supporters Association to the Independent Football Ombudsman. A full investigation took place with evidence provided by the club (including lots of complaints from Wednesday fans about his behaviour) and by the FSA on behalf of Tango. The result of the IFO investigation was that they thought the one year ban was actually too lenient in the circumstances and Tango was lucky to have only received a one year ban. That seems a lot of fuss for Tango to go to those lengths to try and get his ban over turned. He must have known he hadn't a leg to stand on. I am not sure Tango would enjoy games when having to sit down and keep his clothes on. Ironically in the circumstances he probably hasn't got a season ticket so might struggle to see a game in the flesh at all this season. Hope he behaves himself this time and enjoys his football though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 It's about time we all sat quietly, and clap politely occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJayOne Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: That seems a lot of fuss for Tango to go to those lengths to try and get his ban over turned. He must have known he hadn't a leg to stand on. I am not sure Tango would enjoy games when having to sit down and keep his clothes on. Ironically in the circumstances he probably hasn't got a season ticket so might struggle to see a game in the flesh at all this season. Hope he behaves himself this time and enjoys his football though. It also created a lot of work and unnecessary distraction for club staff in preparing evidence for the IFO, etc, at a time when they were extremely busy with fighting the EFL charges and trying to avoid points deductions and other sanctions. 1 SHEFFIELD SHOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ante's Bubbly Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 21 hours ago, ZicoSterland2 said: Can't dispute he is a Wednesday fan but also can't dispute if you have the misfortune to sit anywhere near him he is annoying as ********. Not a conga fan then? Yeah I remember my mate banging the drum for the band, before the seats went in and wanting to sit near us while he did it when we all had to get seats on the Kop. We all bought seats over the other end of the Kop and didn't tell him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I’ve always had a deep mistrust of anyone that changes football club allegiance. I can never work it out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kew Owl Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 hours ago, ZicoSterland2 said: Agree but lets see if the penny drops and he moderates his behaviour. He is welcome back as a Wednesdayite but the welcome will be shortlived if he behaves like a tool. Yes, agreed, but what is inmediately noticeable from his tweet is that there is not even the slightest hint at an apology or anything at all to indicate that he will moderate his behaviour in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Everyone can relax been told he's got a season ticket for the South Stand bang in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skytail Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, ZicoSterland2 said: Have you ever sat near him ?? Near enough to see why he got banned. Edited September 21, 2020 by skytail 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJayOne Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Kew Owl said: Yes, agreed, but what is inmediately noticeable from his tweet is that there is not even the slightest hint at an apology or anything at all to indicate that he will moderate his behaviour in future. In fairness he admitted his wrongdoing and apologised to the club directly when he first went in to discuss his ban. A public apology would go over well though, especially to the ladies he abused, and to the people nearby who were offended by his language and behaviour. 1 SHEFFIELD SHOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: It's about time we all sat quietly, and clap politely occasionally. Or not abuse people just doing their job. You really don't think he's done anything wrong do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Bannofan said: Or not abuse people just doing their job. You really don't think he's done anything wrong do you? I'm convinced that he did wrong and it shouldn't be tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: I'm convinced that he did wrong and it shouldn't be tolerated. OK I apologise, your comment read completely the opposite to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Bannofan said: OK I apologise, your comment read completely the opposite to me. No need to apologise I probably didn't word in the right context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Can’t remember which game it was but his behaviour was a disgrace at one game prior to him being banned. He must have spent half an hour in an aggressive rage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 He makes me laugh with some of his antics . Like doing pretend press ups on advertising hoardings when called fat u no what . Shame as i miss away days cant see them happening for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Django said: Can’t remember which game it was but his behaviour was a disgrace at one game prior to him being banned. He must have spent half an hour in an aggressive rage Qpr home i think. He was v upset at how he and his missus were chucked out at rotherham in cup away a few days earlier by same set of stewards. If your missus were dragged out of ground rough handed i dont suppose you would be too happy either. Can see those stewards becoming covid marshalls now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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