Musn't Grumble Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: "Mum, Dad... This is Mustn't Grumble" Tango or Grumble?.... Chips Correct, Inspector... My wife's only regret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kew Owl Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Tango is just an irritating attention seeker and there are clearly plenty of people willing to oblige him. i hope that one day, people will just start to ignore him. He’ll hopefully then realise that his race is run and decide to start behaving like a normal supporter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Wooo and indeed hoooooo. A obese, semi naked middle aged man, just what the world needs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, Blue and white said: Wooo and indeed hoooooo. A obese, semi naked middle aged man, just what the world needs now. You called . 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJayOne Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 [...] The facts of the case 4. On 25 September the Club wrote to the complainant saying that during an investigation into his conduct while attending Club fixtures, he had been accused of using foul, obscene and aggressive language towards female members of staff at the home match against QPR on 31 August 2019. That was in addition to his unacceptable conduct at the away fixture against Rotherham on 28 August. The Club said that when he had met with them on 18 September, he had been shown the evidence and admitted the accusations against him. They said that the Club would not tolerate such behaviour, which was in breach of their high standards. He had clearly demonstrated that he was unable, or unwilling, to adhere to rule 7 of the ground regulations (that should have been rule 9). Consequently, the Club were banning him for two years and, if he attempted to buy tickets for any Club fixture, the ban would re-start from the relative date. They said that, for clarity, he was precluded from attending matches at Hillsborough or any regulated fixture involving the Club. The Club would also be informing South Yorkshire police of the ban and the police would be monitoring his potential attendance. [...] Evidence from the Club 12. The Club provided the IFO with copies of contemporaneous statements by the female steward involved, and a second female steward who said that she had subsequently been verbally abused by the complainant. Much of the language allegedly used by the complainant was vile and personal. The Club also provided a copy of a report sent to them by Rotherham United surrounding thecircumstances of the complainant’s ejection; aggression, prolonged abuse of stewards and a refusal to follow instructions were common themes throughout the lengthy report. The incident had also caused other fans to turn on the stewards and one steward had been removed for his own safety. The Club also provided evidence from other fans who had complained about the complainant’s behaviour at the Rotherham, QPR and other matches. 13. The Club said that the appeal panel had comprised four senior members of staff who had not been involved in imposing the initial ban. They said that the Club take very seriously discrimination, bullying and abuse of any nature and the complainant had not disputed that he had shouted not once, but a whole torrent of foul and abusive comments to a female steward. He had not known her and there had been no previous interactions between them. That incident had occurred only three days after the complainant had been ejected at Rotherham for similar abusive behaviour involving stewards. The regret expressed by the complainant did not excuse his behaviour, which had humiliated and deeply distressed the lady. The Club did not want to see such scenes in the stadium or want them to be witnessed by other supporters, some of which were children. [...] Findings 16. The IFO considers first the complainant’s contention that the ban was not proportionate to the offence. As far as the length of the ban is concerned, the IFO considers the complainant fortunate not to have received a longer ban in light of the seriousness of the abuse directed at the female stewards, and the fact that he had also been ejected at the Rotherham match when abuse of stewards had also featured. 1 SHEFFIELD SHOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I like the number of supporters on here defending an attention seeker that hurles continuous vile abuse at women ( by his own admittance). I assume it would be OK if he did it to your partner or daughter? We really have a lovely fan base. Crack on lads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_1 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 13 hours ago, @owlstalk said: That would clearly put you in the 0.0000001% mate The cream of the crop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kew Owl Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 8 hours ago, DeeJayOne said: [...] The facts of the case 4. On 25 September the Club wrote to the complainant saying that during an investigation into his conduct while attending Club fixtures, he had been accused of using foul, obscene and aggressive language towards female members of staff at the home match against QPR on 31 August 2019. That was in addition to his unacceptable conduct at the away fixture against Rotherham on 28 August. The Club said that when he had met with them on 18 September, he had been shown the evidence and admitted the accusations against him. They said that the Club would not tolerate such behaviour, which was in breach of their high standards. He had clearly demonstrated that he was unable, or unwilling, to adhere to rule 7 of the ground regulations (that should have been rule 9). Consequently, the Club were banning him for two years and, if he attempted to buy tickets for any Club fixture, the ban would re-start from the relative date. They said that, for clarity, he was precluded from attending matches at Hillsborough or any regulated fixture involving the Club. The Club would also be informing South Yorkshire police of the ban and the police would be monitoring his potential attendance. [...] Evidence from the Club 12. The Club provided the IFO with copies of contemporaneous statements by the female steward involved, and a second female steward who said that she had subsequently been verbally abused by the complainant. Much of the language allegedly used by the complainant was vile and personal. The Club also provided a copy of a report sent to them by Rotherham United surrounding thecircumstances of the complainant’s ejection; aggression, prolonged abuse of stewards and a refusal to follow instructions were common themes throughout the lengthy report. The incident had also caused other fans to turn on the stewards and one steward had been removed for his own safety. The Club also provided evidence from other fans who had complained about the complainant’s behaviour at the Rotherham, QPR and other matches. 13. The Club said that the appeal panel had comprised four senior members of staff who had not been involved in imposing the initial ban. They said that the Club take very seriously discrimination, bullying and abuse of any nature and the complainant had not disputed that he had shouted not once, but a whole torrent of foul and abusive comments to a female steward. He had not known her and there had been no previous interactions between them. That incident had occurred only three days after the complainant had been ejected at Rotherham for similar abusive behaviour involving stewards. The regret expressed by the complainant did not excuse his behaviour, which had humiliated and deeply distressed the lady. The Club did not want to see such scenes in the stadium or want them to be witnessed by other supporters, some of which were children. [...] Findings 16. The IFO considers first the complainant’s contention that the ban was not proportionate to the offence. As far as the length of the ban is concerned, the IFO considers the complainant fortunate not to have received a longer ban in light of the seriousness of the abuse directed at the female stewards, and the fact that he had also been ejected at the Rotherham match when abuse of stewards had also featured. Thanks for posting this - perhaps those people who seem to regard him as some kind of cult hero might now like to reconsider ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 If he was banned for two years, he's only halfway through his ban. Unless it was later reduced for some reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kew Owl said: Thanks for posting this - perhaps those people who seem to regard him as some kind of cult hero might now like to reconsider ? Astonishingly, on that twitter feed, there are messages from female fans welcoming him back! Either they don't know what happened, or they are a bit thick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Baggins Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I also have had the pleasure of sitting near him on public transport. It was like been near an embarrassing uncle at a wedding reception. I couldn't get away faster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Any fan that condones abusive language towards female stewards is scum and it boils my blood knowing that I might sit near them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, Bannofan said: I like the number of supporters on here defending an attention seeker that hurles continuous vile abuse at women ( by his own admittance). I assume it would be OK if he did it to your partner or daughter? We really have a lovely fan base. Crack on lads. Have you heard some of the songs directed at women during a game? In this PC world should they be banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 If I recall, he was chucked out at Rotherham away. We were ‘sat’ a few rows back from where he was apprehended. He was being a bit of a berk but not enough to justify the targeted eviction imo. The stewards had an agenda. I’ve seen people doing far worse at away matches & not even been warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I don't reckon he'll come back to Wednesday games. Probably pick another team to follow like he did with us when he stopped being a wolves fan. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 A few people angry that others seem to be condoning things? I've not seen a single person condoning anything Tango's misbehaved, got banned for it, served his time and now SWFC feel it's right to let him back As far as I"m concerned the onus is now on him to show he's changed and won't do it again If the club think it's ok for him to return now he's done his time, then I don't for one second think the club is condoning anything he's done do you? Let's have some calm here Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_1 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: A few people angry that others seem to be condoning things? I've not seen a single person condoning anything Tango's misbehaved, got banned for it, served his time and now SWFC feel it's right to let him back As far as I"m concerned the onus is now on him to show he's changed and won't do it again If the club think it's ok for him to return now he's done his time, then I don't for one second think the club is condoning anything he's done do you? Let's have some calm here You said those of us criticising him were envious that he was a celebrity football fan and you acted like our criticism was jealousy You didn't come out and defend his actions, but you did say those of us criticising were wrong / jealous. Edited September 21, 2020 by Matt_1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: A few people angry that others seem to be condoning things? I've not seen a single person condoning anything Tango's misbehaved, got banned for it, served his time and now SWFC feel it's right to let him back As far as I"m concerned the onus is now on him to show he's changed and won't do it again If the club think it's ok for him to return now he's done his time, then I don't for one second think the club is condoning anything he's done do you? Let's have some calm here Agree but lets see if the penny drops and he moderates his behaviour. He is welcome back as a Wednesdayite but the welcome will be shortlived if he behaves like a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 39 minutes ago, latemodelchild said: I don't reckon he'll come back to Wednesday games. Probably pick another team to follow like he did with us when he stopped being a wolves fan. NAILED IT RIGHT THERE.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Have you heard some of the songs directed at women during a game? In this PC world should they be banned? Are you trying to equate a general song - like ' Oh Sheffield is wonderful' - with direct, sustained personal abuse of female stewards just doing their job? Really? ...and it's living in a 'PC World' to point out such abuse shouldn't happen? All this is because the perpetrator is a loud mouthed attention seeking Sheffield Wednesday supporter? Unbelievable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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