coopswfc76 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Wednesday_Jack said: hahaha...his debut was good then the rest he looked shellshocked and off the pace. So that proves it as the game I mentioned he was far better than on his debut. Always a good idea to actually watch the game before commenting on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, coopswfc76 said: I'll assume you didn't see the Cardiff game I mentioned so will continue to spout I'll informed nonsense. we was talking about when he first signed not last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, coopswfc76 said: So that proves it as the game I mentioned he was far better than on his debut. Always a good idea to actually watch the game before commenting on it. what you talking about?? No one ever doubted his debut or last week...it was been discussed, when he signed and the games before his car crash in the derby at hillsborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, Wednesday_Jack said: what you talking about?? No one ever doubted his debut or last week...it was been discussed, when he signed and the games before his car crash in the derby at hillsborough I said the game before that disaster which was Cardiff away not last week when he was ok and this week when he was ok pretty much like his debut when he was ok. To be clear the game at Cardiff before he had that disaster v them he was outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 So is van aken beckanbauer again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, coopswfc76 said: I said the game before that disaster which was Cardiff away not last week when he was ok and this week when he was ok pretty much like his debut when he was ok. To be clear the game at Cardiff before he had that disaster v them he was outstanding. so in the first season we signed him, he played 14/15 games...in that time he had 1 good game and an “ok game”!! He was a disaster mate no matter how you try to dress it up. im glad he’s started the season well and I seriously hope it continues but the justification for him to be previously dropped and subsequently loaned out, was correct. He was very poor and off the pace. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryPlopper Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 You know that first season Van Aken joined us, he was almost on a hiding to nothing. We were on the whole, defensively sound, but what none of us realised just how fast it would go south. We were told that this kid had been scouted and out of nearly 200 people, chosen - he came with a large reputation because of that, and he looked impressive early doors - pinging the ball about with consummate ease. Then he got held out to dry with a few really bad performances - and no one can deny that he had some very bad performances for us. BUT he has done ok this season and that's all we can now talk about. Lad is doing ok. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Wednesday_Jack said: so in the first season we signed him, he played 14/15 games...in that time he had 1 good game and an “ok game”!! He was a disaster mate no matter how you try to dress it up. im glad he’s started the season well and I seriously hope it continues but the justification for him to be previously dropped and subsequently loaned out, was correct. He was very poor and off the pace. I'm not dressing anything up I'm not convinced defensively with him but I was just pointing out that his best game for us was before the disaster against them. I've not got into how I rate him I was just correcting you as you was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 15 hours ago, keepitsteel89 said: His passing is spot on at times and that causes teams to stretch out more to cover him, it gives Bannan more options to pass forwards instead.. turning into a decent player imo “at times” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 8 hours ago, coopswfc76 said: I'm not dressing anything up I'm not convinced defensively with him but I was just pointing out that his best game for us was before the disaster against them. I've not got into how I rate him I was just correcting you as you was wrong. no I wasn’t...he was terrible. He had 1 maybe 2 good games out of 14/15. He was shocking and the pigs game was the last straw. 30,000 other Wednesday fans knew it and so did the manager...only you that still thought “there’s a player in there”. ......get back to fifa or FM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig enock Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 12 hours ago, coopswfc76 said: I said the game before that disaster which was Cardiff away not last week when he was ok and this week when he was ok pretty much like his debut when he was ok. To be clear the game at Cardiff before he had that disaster v them he was outstanding. Agree... i was at that Cardiff game and he was class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 58 minutes ago, Wednesday_Jack said: no I wasn’t...he was terrible. He had 1 maybe 2 good games out of 14/15. He was shocking and the pigs game was the last straw. 30,000 other Wednesday fans knew it and so did the manager...only you that still thought “there’s a player in there”. ......get back to fifa or FM. Totally right. I even remember Nixon tweeting ‘Dutch lad needs to sharpen up’ a few games before the Pigs debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 In summary, he's probably not quite as bad as he first appeared, or quite as good as some now painting him. Either way it benefits the squad and the team. Whichever idiot said he was the best of 200 scouted though, wants shooting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling Wolfe Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Wow, the support for this lad from some of you is the main reason our players are afraid to pull on the shirt. FIFA managers springs to mind, he’s playing well, get off his back FFS and show some much needed support. Slagging players off isnt going to claw back 8 points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Owling Wolfe said: Wow, the support for this lad from some of you is the main reason our players are afraid to pull on the shirt. FIFA managers springs to mind, he’s playing well, get off his back FFS and show some much needed support. Slagging players off isnt going to claw back 8 points. Spot on. Totally the fans fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling Wolfe Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Mr Farrell said: Spot on. Totally the fans fault. Not totally, but the abuse does not help one bit. Players play on confidence and constantly slating them will never build confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Owling Wolfe said: Not totally, but the abuse does not help one bit. Players play on confidence and constantly slating them will never build confidence. 100% Our home record would be so much better the last 6 months if the fans got behind the players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling Wolfe Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Farrell said: 100% Our home record would be so much better the last 6 months if the fans got behind the players. Your sarcasm is almost off the scale here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, The_Limit_Owl said: The idiots that took it as gospel that we scouted 200 defenders are the ones who want shooting! Wow. Your saying DC and Carlos were lying to the fans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhollywood Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 He arrived here aged 23 from another country as has so far made 17 appearances for the club. I put him in the same bracket as Rhodes in the sense that he's just generally had a weird time at the club so far for various reasons. New season though and a fresh start, has looked good so far, let's hope he keeps it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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