TrickyTrev Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I remember Paul Merson saying that clubs who play 3 centre backs often do it because they have central defenders who aren’t good enough. Van Aken looked awful playing in a central defensive partnership but so far he’s looked “ok” in a three. I’m not sure he’s got any better, more that we’ve settled on a formation that offers him a little bit of extra cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Its early days yet for VA,hes done ok in his two run outs thus far,his long passes are something of an assett alas hes in there to defend first and foremost,and he still doesnt fill me with confidence,hes far from a solid unit and always looks clumsy and awkward 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Hitcat said: A truly gifted player. He'd make my universe top 10. Loving the positivity Cat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffielddart Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 He played well. Liked the way he was putting himself about a bit and “competing” with Murray. Didn’t notice that side to his game when he first came. Better coaching from someone with a bit more nous on what you need to be able to do to play CB in this league ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Last season he featured heavily in threads about the worst defenders in our history. Monk was the worst manager in our history. Lees was shot and league 1 at best. Rhodes was a money grabbing disgrace. 2 games vs league 1 and 2 opposition, another home game without a win, and a win vs a poor Cardiff, and they are now worldbeaters. If ever there was a lesson to not to Owlstalk remotely seriously, this is it. The first defeat will have them all back to zeros, and Monk on his way. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 11 hours ago, Sgt Wednesday said: Iorfa, Lees and Van Aken know that Borner and Dunkley are breathing down their necks. Dunkley will put real pressure on them, Borner looks a bit lost in a back 3 but we know he's decent. Think Borner would be better in the Lees role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 11 hours ago, coopswfc76 said: He was outstanding and had his best game for us v Cardiff just before that disaster. outstanding?? He had 1 good game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, Wednesday_Jack said: outstanding?? He had 1 good game That's enough on Owlstalk to become world class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Farrell said: That's enough on Owlstalk to become world class. hahaha...his debut was good then the rest he looked shellshocked and off the pace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilianenko Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 The quicker skilful players will be the ones he struggles against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2soon Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Definitely looked better than last time i saw him play. Watford will be up there this season so a clean sheet is worth noting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 The next morgan Fox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 9 hours ago, TrickyTrev said: I remember Paul Merson saying that clubs who play 3 centre backs often do it because they have central defenders who aren’t good enough. Van Aken looked awful playing in a central defensive partnership but so far he’s looked “ok” in a three. I’m not sure he’s got any better, more that we’ve settled on a formation that offers him a little bit of extra cover. There’s a bit of this but he has got bigger physically and more used to the style here. When he played centrally in a 3 though at Wigan under Jos he wasn’t comfortable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffielddart Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Actually no one, is stupid enough to think that our players have become world class because they have had a few good games. However, what this team have done already, is show that they are all decent Championship level players. They have also shown that they will all put a shift in for the club when they are on the pitch. Van Aken had a decent game yesterday, he didn't do it as a personal affront to anyone, he did it because he's learnt/been taught how to play in this league. So, well done to him and well done to the coaching staff. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Big mick on commentary on the forest game said there were always a lack of quality left sided centre backs. Could have a player here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Pieman said: Think Borner would be better in the Lees role If the back 3 are solid but we have injuries in midfield I can see Borner in the defensive midfield role. He played there in Germany and I'm sure he would be a better midfield option than Joey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, meggoisgod said: If the back 3 are solid but we have injuries in midfield I can see Borner in the defensive midfield role. He played there in Germany and I'm sure he would be a better midfield option than Joey Oh god not this again. Need to add ‘we should try him as CDM’ to my cliches Edited September 20, 2020 by McRightSide 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 It’s hard to see how well he is playing without being in the stadium. He had a huge issue with how he shifted his weight and power when defending before, which made him an easy target for any attacker or coach. I have no idea whether this massive issue has been properly addressed as I haven’t seen enough of him this season. if he has sorted it , then huge respect to the coaches and the player himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 He looks a good player. Him and the other four CBs we have now are a strong group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Emilianenko said: The quicker skilful players will be the ones he struggles against. I think everyone would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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