2soon Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 56 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I honestly don't believe ANY Wednesday fan believes that anymore Would love to live in a fantasy world as well but quite a few well reasoned wednesday fans believe it is speculation. By the look of it two have posted in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: I'm sure we used to have that written on the wall in our school changing rooms, along with other clichés such as, 'there's no 'I' in team'. and jill watson ***ks for nuts? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, parajack said: And he was right..if possible though hard work and 'talent' hard working AND talented footballers cost an arm and a leg, look at some of our more recent 'better lights'. talented?, yes, hard working? when it suited, loyal to the club and fans? you're joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: You mean the players that gave us our highest two finishes in the league? Lets see if this lot are less that 12 points off 4th at the end of the season. we're trying to 'rebuild' from the time of 'your heros'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 IF we can get a hard working side playing for each other AND bring some goals in via a c/f in the loan window, we can finish top half with luck. IF we don't bring goals in, hard work all the time can be asking too much, then the players stop listening, stop believing, and it goes south. this is only a start, dc needs to support monk, and get him a proper weapon up front, or even two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: A team of hard workers and little talent won’t go far. A team of talented individuals who don’t work hard won’t go far. A mixture of both and you’ve nailed it. but then it's balance needed. tommy doc said to ken furphy when ken was pig manager 'buy enough third division players, and you'll end up in the third division'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, dorian gray said: but then it's balance needed. tommy doc said to ken furphy when ken was pig manager 'buy enough third division players, and you'll end up in the third division'. Very true. Which is what worries me now we have a lot of hard work but we’re lacking in quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, Dutch McLovin said: Very true. Which is what worries me now we have a lot of hard work but we’re lacking in quality. can't argue there, and it's unlikely to last, unless you have staggering good luck, and fantastic team spirit. however it may last for a while, and once we've got shut of the 'efl anchor' we can aim for 4th. bottom. but realistically we cannot go on keeping a clean sheet, when we concede we have come out and leave gaps that could cause us to concede more, we need goals, we need to loan in attackers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, 2soon said: Would love to live in a fantasy world as well but quite a few well reasoned wednesday fans believe it is speculation. By the look of it two have posted in this thread. I don't know what to say It's like talking to someone who's watching a wall being painted green saying to them "What do you think? Do you like the green wall?" and getting a reply of 'I reckon it's orange' 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, daveyboy66 said: It's amazing what can be achieved if no one minds who gets the credit - Howard Wilkinson "Eighty per cent of teams who score first in matches go on to win them. But they may draw some - or occasionally lose" - David Pleat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I would have taken 4 points from first 2 games no matter how we played. We do need an injection of talent upfront (to be fair Windass has looked good) and a defensive midfielder as Luongo is not that type of player. The target is 4th bottom and we are looking a reasonable bet to be able to get that at least , so far anyway. The worry is the squad has little or no back up , if we hit a run of injuries we could be in serious trouble. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: I honestly don't believe ANY Wednesday fan believes that anymore We all know for a fact that we've had bad eggs at the club who have had our pants down Please for the sake of f.ook someone put that on a flag for the top of the Kop..It would be absolutely brilliant!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: I'm sure we used to have that written on the wall in our school changing rooms, along with other clichés such as, 'there's no 'I' in team'. ... but there is “me” and I’m special. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: Not my words Carol... the words of Top Gear Magazine 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, dorian gray said: hard working AND talented footballers cost an arm and a leg, look at some of our more recent 'better lights'. talented?, yes, hard working? when it suited, loyal to the club and fans? you're joking. Totally agree mate but your having a disagreement with yourself!! not unknown on here though...LOL i wasn't referring to those i was glad to see the back of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, ZicoSterland2 said: I would have taken 4 points from first 2 games no matter how we played. We do need an injection of talent upfront (to be fair Windass has looked good) and a defensive midfielder as Luongo is not that type of player. The target is 4th bottom and we are looking a reasonable bet to be able to get that at least , so far anyway. The worry is the squad has little or no back up , if we hit a run of injuries we could be in serious trouble. Target 4th bottom? might be yours its not mine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, dorian gray said: can't argue there, and it's unlikely to last, unless you have staggering good luck, and fantastic team spirit. however it may last for a while, and once we've got shut of the 'efl anchor' we can aim for 4th. bottom. but realistically we cannot go on keeping a clean sheet, when we concede we have come out and leave gaps that could cause us to concede more, we need goals, we need to loan in attackers. 4th bottom ?...we have played 2 games in the League,kept two clean sheets,won one,and drawn with a side who many thought would belt us..show some spirit please!!We can do much better than that...I would accept 4th bottom at the end of the season,if i saw progress on the field as well as results..but ime not aiming for it....Stop looking in the mirror Dorian,its aging you mate.. Edited September 19, 2020 by parajack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 54 minutes ago, dorian gray said: can't argue there, and it's unlikely to last, unless you have staggering good luck, and fantastic team spirit. however it may last for a while, and once we've got shut of the 'efl anchor' we can aim for 4th. bottom. but realistically we cannot go on keeping a clean sheet, when we concede we have come out and leave gaps that could cause us to concede more, we need goals, we need to loan in attackers. Sometimes its interesting to see which members 'like' posts......nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, parajack said: Target 4th bottom? might be yours its not mine.... My targets are realistic are yours ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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