scilly owl Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I thought that Tony Pulis was excellent on Sky the other night... he managed to string a sentence together without saying “ the boy” or “ football club” and when he started talking about cauliflowers and milking techniques he was really on the money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Big difference between a co comm and a studio pundit. the co comm, Jimmy armfield was great at that, big Ron before he lost it. Big jack, keegan and of course the best of the lot David pleat. the studio lot don’t really add much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Lee Hendrie is Sue Smith with a beard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 hours ago, sherlyegg said: Don't think it's unfair to have a moan at someone whose wages I help pay, without any option. Others you mention, music stars etc, I do have the option. You don’t have to have a TV license. But since you choose to have one, realistically, how much of your annual license fee do you reckon pays for Lineker’s salary? A quick bit of fagpacket maths would show your household pays approx 44p of Lineker’s salary per year. If you’ve got nowt else in life to moan about than 44p then you don’t know you’re born. 2 hours ago, parajack said: Only agenda i have is the out of control Frankenstein monster,that has become almost anything to do with football....except of course the lower tiers & the fans.....I highlighted Ozils wages at Arsenal as an example....gets more in a Month(approx 200,000 more) than Lineker gets in a Year.!!!!! FFS..Whatever example you use,(in football)there is one more extreme Dont even mention Messi or Ronaldo....(not UK examples fair enough) By comparison Lineker earned more than what some Championship managers got for talking about football :https://sportsmaza.com/money/english-premier-league-managers-salary/ Yes football’s finances are out of control; mainly because of the outrageous salaries of players in the Premier League. 100% agree. But Lineker is a TV personality - has been since 1995ish. You’re conflating two separate issues. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperwinngardensowl Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Pundits are there to add (relevant) experience, be able to communicate, and be entertaining. Sky have forgotten that with their recent panels of “experts” who usually fail on at least two of the above criteria. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Emilianenko said: Lineker is a tw@t and not a patch on Des Lynam, Bob Wilson or Jimmy Hill Takes one to know one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, Westfield Owl said: You don’t have to have a TV license. But since you choose to have one, realistically, how much of your annual license fee do you reckon pays for Lineker’s salary? A quick bit of fagpacket maths would show your household pays approx 44p of Lineker’s salary per year. If you’ve got nowt else in life to moan about than 44p then you don’t know you’re born. Yes football’s finances are out of control; mainly because of the outrageous salaries of players in the Premier League. 100% agree. But Lineker is a TV personality - has been since 1995ish. You’re conflating two separate issues. I dont see it that way........but perhaps your right...The upward spiral of Mega Money in Life & in general,for so called 'stars'& in Football (& football related)in particular,is way out of control,& should be discussed & challenged across all spheres....That way the rights & wrongs(not envy or jealousy) can be weighed up... Its simply just not RIGHT......in my view & may well cause a groundswell of indignation & public opinion for change.... which is what I believe has probably happened here. Why else would he 'accept'; a pay cut? I do accept their is a contrary view,but i feel that the pundits pay is part of the same alleged 'greed' disease that has infected Football in general...TV personality? well yeah,true...but i think its a case of the Emperor's cloth's...if Advertisers want to waste their millions thats one thing(but still wrong!)...I just object to the BBC paying it....1.2 Millon a Year,however you cut it,would pay for a lot of things,(eg look at the cuts to sport coverage over the BBC radio channels,less matches covered.etc effecting the pleasure of many) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilianenko Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: Takes one to know one. Getting personal Tibbsy , you have no class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonshire owl Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Emilianenko said: Lineker is a tw@t and not a patch on Des Lynam, Bob Wilson or Jimmy Hill Colin Murphy isn't bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 A good few female football puntits breaking through, must be the tight turning circles they manage (Think double Artic) One I wont mention by name, in the main because you all will guess her. Talks at length about what she has no experience of; One would think she has only been picked by virtue of her figure and stunning looks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 17 hours ago, scilly owl said: I thought that Tony Pulis was excellent on Sky the other night... he managed to string a sentence together without saying “ the boy” or “ football club” and when he started talking about cauliflowers and milking techniques he was really on the money. Wheres Alan Freeman when you need him?? 'Nod Arf'.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEdwards Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 £1.2million is an absolutely criminal wage for a public funded broadcaster, especially in the face of the many cuts it is making in its news coverage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, MrEdwards said: £1.2million is an absolutely criminal wage for a public funded broadcaster, especially in the face of the many cuts it is making in its news coverage. And it's not like Lineker is a draw for people who wouldn't watch regardless or that he's uniquely gifted for that role. I don't mind him, but that kind of money seems wildly unnecessary under the circumstances you describe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I like it when they have journos on. Like BT get Rafa Honnigstein on sometimes to comment on german football. People who are articulate and have an ounce of sense. On the flip side Ian Wright is good cos hes like a big excited child. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: A good few female football puntits breaking through, must be the tight turning circles they manage (Think double Artic) One I wont mention by name, in the main because you all will guess her. Talks at length about what she has no experience of; One would think she has only been picked by virtue of her figure and stunning looks. I like Mina Rzouki - she mainly does podcasts - but she should be doing more tv... Edited September 17, 2020 by Daizan10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 20 hours ago, Emilianenko said: Lineker is a tw@t In what way exactly? 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Daizan10 said: I like it when they have journos on. Like BT get Rafa Honnigstein on sometimes to comment on german football. People who are articulate and have an ounce of sense. On the flip side Ian Wright is good cos hes like a big excited child. Good call. I also like Gabriele Marcotti and Tim Vickery. One of the best examples though was James Richardson when he started doing Football Italia on Channel 4. He had no real background in it, yet was tremendous with the humour, style and relaxed manner that put some of his experienced rivals to shame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, DJMortimer said: Good call. I also like Gabriele Marcotti and Tim Vickery. One of the best examples though was James Richardson when he started doing Football Italia on Channel 4. He had no real background in it, yet was tremendous with the humour, style and relaxed manner that put some of his experienced rivals to shame. He does an excellent podcast if that's your bag. The totally football show. (James Richardson that is). Edited September 17, 2020 by Daizan10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 19 hours ago, Westfield Owl said: quick bit of fagpacket maths would show your household pays approx 44p of Lineker’s salary per year. If you’ve got nowt else in life to moan about than 44p then you don’t know you’re born. I don't want to pay him 44p though, btw how do you know that i don't know i was born. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Daizan10 said: I like Mina Rzouki - she mainly does podcasts - but she should be doing more tv... Need a PHoooooorrrrrr icon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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