Guest Grandad Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: Completely different. George Hirst could have just left Wednesday for Leicester and that would’ve been the equivalent of no longer visiting the shop. What Hirst did was ensure that the club missed out on a decent compensation package for the time, money and effort they spent in developing him. If we put this to your shop comparison it’s the equivalent of no longer visiting the shop, then ensuring you went out of your way to damage that shop financially after you’d stopped going there. Me personally, I’d just stop shopping there. Interesting though, I’d be willing to bet that if this grubby practice were to become common place in football and Premier League clubs were to start taking young players away from lower league clubs for free more often, then the very people who are defending George Hirst and Leicester now would be the first to start kicking up a fuss when lower league clubs start suffering financially. Leicester offered us £2m and the move was blocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandad said: I really identified with Rita, Sue and Bob Too Which one in particular? Only have hazy memories of that film only seen it the once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Never seen The Full Monty. Kes is definitely worth watching I would think most from around SY area would identify with it. Plenty of local locations for you to film, but I if guess if you are to scared to go round Page Hall then Barnsley would terrify you Never come across anyone who really disliked it. I will give it a go - will see if I can find it on Sky etc now! Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Grandad said: I really identified with Rita, Sue and Bob Too Ah I only saw the first one Didn't even know there was this sequal 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: Completely different. George Hirst could have just left Wednesday for Leicester and that would’ve been the equivalent of no longer visiting the shop. What Hirst did was ensure that the club missed out on a decent compensation package for the time, money and effort they spent in developing him. If we put this to your shop comparison it’s the equivalent of no longer visiting the shop, then ensuring you went out of your way to damage that shop financially after you’d stopped going there. Same thing as I said about the shops then, and clearing off leaving the mad shopowner to go bust Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Ah I only saw the first one Didn't even know there was this sequal Sequel was much better They got their baps out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandad said: Sequel was much better They got their baps out Sorry. Breadcakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Grandad said: Leicester offered us £2m and the move was blocked The club are within their rights to refuse bids for under contract players, as is any club. That still doesn’t excuse the fact that rather just leave at the end of his contract (as is his right), Hirst and Leicester went out of their way to ensure the club missed out on compensation they were due for the time, money and effort they spent developing him. It baffles me that some fans are ok with this. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Same thing as I said about the shops then, and clearing off leaving the mad shopowner to go bust Completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, TrickyTrev said: Completely different. It really isn't though It's literally the exact same thing Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, TrickyTrev said: The club are within their rights to refuse bids for under contract players, as is any club. That still doesn’t excuse the fact that rather just leave at the end of his contract (as is his right), Hirst and Leicester went out of their way to ensure the club missed out on compensation they were due for the time, money and effort they spent developing him. It baffles me that some fans are ok with this. After he was forced to not train or play for us any more. Effectively stalling his career for a year I'm amazed some fans are ok with us treating our young players like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Anybody know how this went? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It really isn't though It's literally the exact same thing No it’s not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, TrickyTrev said: No it’s not. You're really embarrassing yourself now Everyone in this thread has read it and agrees with me that George Hirst leaving is EXACTLY like a shopkeeper turning nasty and having bad customer service 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, Grandad said: After he was forced to not train or play for us any more. Effectively stalling his career for a year I'm amazed some fans are ok with us treating our young players like that Hirst wanted a first team wage, the club rightly refused. Hirst refused to sign a new deal, the club wrongly refused to play him for a year. Right and wrong on both sides. Doesn't change the fact that the club would screwed out of money they were owed to them for developing Hirst. Would you be ok with this becoming common practice in the English game? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, TrickyTrev said: Hirst wanted a first team wage, the club rightly refused. Hirst refused to sign a new deal, the club wrongly refused to play him for a year. Right and wrong on both sides. Doesn't change the fact that the club would screwed out of money they were owed to them for developing Hirst. Would you be ok with this becoming common practice in the English game? How was it viewed legally? Did it even go to court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: You're really embarrassing yourself now Everyone in this thread has read it and agrees with me that George Hirst leaving is EXACTLY like a shopkeeper turning nasty and having bad customer service Hahaha I’m embarrassing myself.... after you try to compare Hirst signing for Leicester via Belgium in order to avoid paying us compensation with you deciding to stop shopping in a shop you’d previously enjoyed going to. Ok then. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: Hahaha I’m embarrassing myself.... after you try to compare Hirst signing for Leicester via Belgium in order to avoid paying us compensation with you deciding to stop shopping in a shop you’d previously enjoyed going to. Ok then. It's not MY favourite shop we're talking about here It's YOURS You're only affecting/upsetting yourself with this shop scenario I've never even seen the shop never mind been in it so I can't be possibly affected 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, The_Limit_Owl said: I don't! You do! Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Think it was six of one half a dozen of the other on who was a fault when George Hirst left Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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