Inspector Lestrade Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 If I was to buy a Football club, the least I'd want in the package would be:- The players and the staff The Ground The Training ground The Rotherham Owls Coach Or what's the points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jaydubz said: Has it never occurred to you that if DC did sell up, he would sell the ground as well as a full package? The stadium hasn't gone into obscurity you know!!!! Clearly this is what would happen, why some people can’t get their heads around this I don’t know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jaydubz said: he would sell the ground as well as a full package? Just now, TrickyTrev said: Clearly this is what would happen, why some people can’t get their heads around this I don’t know. He could, or he may not, or he may. There's no proof that he "would". This is a reply on a Barnsley subject, where the former owner of Barnsley retains ownership (partial) of Oakwell, ie, he didn't sell the ground to the new owners as a full package, nor is he obliged to sell despite the owner wanting to buy. Of course, it couldn't happen to us though. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: Clearly this is what would happen, why some people can’t get their heads around this I don’t know. Because other owners have sold clubs and kept the grounds Many times 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I'm sure Coventry City fans would have something to say about the notion a football club would not be held to ransom over it's home stadium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny12Inch Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Nero said: Who is we? Do you mean the fans? If so 'we' didn't own the stadium - Chansiri did And now it is in the control of his family. But keep peddling the slack brained myth..... Well the club doesn’t own the stadium it’s now technically private owned so I’m not sure any rent money would count towards FFP. not sure what’s got you so grumpy but go have a cup of tea and a biscuit it’s going to be ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hoppy Hopper Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Haven’t read the whole thread yet, but wouldn’t want to see them end up outside Barnsley for any length of time. As a football fan I don’t want to see another team end up like Coventry or worse Wimbledon FC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydubz Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Because other owners have sold clubs and kept the grounds Many times Would make it rather difficult to sell, and very little gain I’d have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s73owl Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 9 hours ago, S36 OWL said: Found them a nice little spot just off the M1 at Birdwell That's my little beauty at the back, top row, far left, bit of a squeeze sometimes what with me and the sister and our 9 kids but we get by 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Jaydubz said: Has it never occurred to you that if DC did sell up, he would sell the ground as well as a full package? The stadium hasn't gone into obscurity you know!!!! Why wouldnt he want to keep the ground and harvest a decent rent every season?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Just now, Therealrealist said: Why wouldnt he want to keep the ground and harvest a decent rent every season?? Seriously how much is the rent ? Has it ever been published anywhere ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hookowl said: Seriously how much is the rent ? Has it ever been published anywhere ? He could charge what he wants within reason..it would be cheaper for any new owner to rent hillsbro than build us a new ground..im sure leeds have only recently bought back their ground after paying rent for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Therealrealist said: He could charge what he wants within reason..it would be cheaper for any new owner to rent hillsbro than build us a new ground..im sure leeds have only recently bought back their ground after paying rent for years Yes I suppose so, but what I really meant was has the rent that we are paying now been published anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 hours ago, DlNGLE said: where are they going to build it ? to build they need planning permission, who gives out planning permission? . Would you let someone build a new ground if it means you’re left with a ground you can’t rent out. Sure there are a number of brown field sites available in Barnsley, plenty of big industrial sites keep getting built round Grimesthorpe etc. Would have thought they could develop Oakwell just like they did with Highbury....after all it is far older and an historic venue. Look at Brighton out of town new build...full each week, Reebok another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Gibbo says they can play here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Harrysgame said: Barnsley, plenty of big industrial sites keep getting built round Grimesthorpe Don't really want em in Sheffield...crowded already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Therealrealist said: Why wouldnt he want to keep the ground and harvest a decent rent every season?? Because if he sells the stadium along with the club he can probably add around £30m to the asking price rather than selling the club without a stadium which would see him receive significantly less from a buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: Don't really want em in Sheffield...crowded already. Lol...meant Grimethorpe, easy mistake both quite similar....!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 3 hours ago, DJMortimer said: I'm sure Coventry City fans would have something to say about the notion a football club would not be held to ransom over it's home stadium. Not the same scenario though, quite far from it. They moved into the Ricoh arena which I believe was owned by the council. The fallouts and them moving out (twice) were due to arguments over rent as tenants, how much money they could make from matchday etc. Whilst our situation is far from ideal, it is quite different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 20 hours ago, Therealrealist said: Sheffield 3 or summat..but you know that..any new owner would have to pay rent for rhe use of hillsborough i didn't know that, i've never heard the term sheffield 3 before. but i had a feeling a certain party involved in the matter might just be a tad smarter than some on our side of the fence who are wailing all the time about a lost ground. 15 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: You will be sat in the West Stand with a big greasy six fingered oaf sat and drooling in your seat. Reight hazmat suit from matalan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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