IWEDFM Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 To be fair Jokanovic got Fulham and Watford promoted with far better squads than what the pigs currently have and that is before they have sold the likes of Berge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 9 hours ago, markowl said: "Chiswick......fresh horse!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 18 hours ago, Jim said: Jokanovic would give them a decent chance of bouncing straight back but it would probably depend on who he’s allowed to keep and what he can do in the market? Decent chance, but their best chance was wilder with that team. Expensively assembled but not exactly high on quality, coming off one of the worst seasons in EPL history. The other way of looking at it is Jokanovic acknowledged to be a very expensive option, another big wage draining the parachute money they've already spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Jokanovic is a very good manager for this level, annoyingly so. Still, think the next manager is on a hiding to nothing after our Tufty. He was a father to some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 3 hours ago, striker said: Decent chance, but their best chance was wilder with that team. Expensively assembled but not exactly high on quality, coming off one of the worst seasons in EPL history. The other way of looking at it is Jokanovic acknowledged to be a very expensive option, another big wage draining the parachute money they've already spent. Some of the players supposedly have relegation wage reduction clauses in their contracts, some have release clauses. Wonder if the Prince had a word with Wilder and said come on mate the players are doing their bit don't you think you could take a wage cut as well? Wilder said no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, CalmJimmers said: Jokanovic is a very good manager for this level, annoyingly so. Still, think the next manager is on a hiding to nothing after our Tufty. He was a father to some of them. The first 6 games will be interesting following the cult of wilder....if he doesn't have them in the top 6 it could well be toxic for him After all 95%of them are convinced that wilder would have taken them back up.... with largely the same team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlinmad Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) Their fans logic is nonsense. I was talking to a couple who are convinced they will walk the Championship next season. I pointed out they are coming down third in a 3 horse race and are trailing massively in that race, so surely that means at least 2 teams way better than them. They counted by saying next season would be different as they have recent experience of the Championship and what it takes to get out of it. So do Fulham and West Brom I said, not to mention those who will have come close this season and have even more recent Championship experience. Yes but fans will be back next season they said........................................... I left it at that. They'd got me. I can't compete with that level of intelligence. For what it's worth I think they'll struggle big time. Edited April 23, 2021 by Owlinmad 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Jokanovic is on 60k a week atm. Surely they are too humble to pay that in the 2nd tier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Django said: Jokanovic is on 60k a week atm. Surely they are too humble to pay that in the 2nd tier It might be they cant afford to pay that next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWEDFM Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I would be suprised if they ended up with Jokanovic as prince bog roll has gone on record saying there will be cut backs and players sold to balance to books. Jokanovic has most recently been managing in the middle east so would have been on an absolute wedge out there I still think they'll end up with that Blessing bloke but i'd love it if they gave it full time to Paul Finishbottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 17 hours ago, Django said: Jokanovic is on 60k a week atm. Surely they are too humble to pay that in the 2nd tier £20k p.w. less than wilderness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 23 hours ago, Owlinmad said: Their fans logic is nonsense. I was talking to a couple who are convinced they will walk the Championship next season. I pointed out they are coming down third in a 3 horse race and are trailing massively in that race, so surely that means at least 2 teams way better than them. They counted by saying next season would be different as they have recent experience of the Championship and what it takes to get out of it. So do Fulham and West Brom I said, not to mention those who will have come close this season and have even more recent Championship experience. Yes but fans will be back next season they said........................................... I left it at that. They'd got me. I can't compete with that level of intelligence. For what it's worth I think they'll struggle big time. Just read one of them say they will get between 65 and 95 million for Berge. Totally overlooking it’s been well covered that he has a release clause. And they say we are deluded. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mildatheart67 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Well at least Brighton aren't on the beach.. 0-3 would be pleasing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Plonk said: Just read one of them say they will get between 65 and 95 million for Berge. Totally overlooking it’s been well covered that he has a release clause. And they say we are deluded. £95M would make him the 11th most expensive footballer of all time and the 3rd most expensive midfielder. A midfielder contracted to a Championship club who doesn't score goals, isn't a good tackler and has been injured for 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I think they go up next season...their players are good enough to get promoted but not good enough to be raided by premier league clubs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: I think they go up next season...their players are good enough to get promoted but not good enough to be raided by premier league clubs What about the two clubs that go down with them that have been far better than them then? Will they have their best players raided? If so they will have the most money in the Championship so will be able to cherry pick Utd's best players if they are so good. Not like their players have any loyalty to the club or a manager now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 1 minute ago, hirstyboywonder said: What about the two clubs that go down with them that have been far better than them then? Will they have their best players raided? If so they will have the most money in the Championship so will be able to cherry pick Utd's best players if they are so good. Not like their players have any loyalty to the club or a manager now. no mate I think we are starting to see a big difference between championship and PL which means players are too good for one division and not good enough for the other. I think Fulham and WBA are very much like United. I feel its kind of a soft ring fencing they've been able to get away with due to ffp rules. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Just now, Ellis Rimmer said: no mate I think we are starting to see a big difference between championship and PL which means players are too good for one division and not good enough for the other. I think Fulham and WBA are very much like United. I feel its kind of a soft ring fencing they've been able to get away with due to ffp rules. But that then leaves Fulham and West Brom better off player-wise, manager-wise and financially judging by what we know about United. Play-offs are somewhat a lottery. No guarantee if they aren't top 2 and I am not sure I agree with your player assessment anyway. I think they very much punched above their weight for 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxOwl Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Mid table. If there Lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Just now, hirstyboywonder said: But that then leaves Fulham and West Brom better off player-wise, manager-wise and financially judging by what we know about United. Play-offs are somewhat a lottery. No guarantee if they aren't top 2 and I am not sure I agree with your player assessment anyway. I think they very much punched above their weight for 2 seasons. I hope you're right but I fear not. Guys like Brewster are typical of the type of player I am on about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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