TheGaffer Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Wilders record in the premier is similar to Danny Wilson's with us. Let that sink in 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 The warmer weather brings them out. Saw a grown man earlier on the school run - tattoos, pig shirt on, with number 7 and "Lunny" printed on the back. Grown man. Player name on his shirt. "Lunny". wtf 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, alanharper said: The warmer weather brings them out. Saw a grown man earlier on the school run - tattoos, pig shirt on, with number 7 and "Lunny" printed on the back. Grown man. Player name on his shirt. "Lunny". wtf Was he in pig pink? Also his name might have been Lunn, but being a pig means you have to put a "y" on the end of every name, so it's pronounced "Lunny" in pig talk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, alanharper said: The warmer weather brings them out. Saw a grown man earlier on the school run - tattoos, pig shirt on, with number 7 and "Lunny" printed on the back. Grown man. Player name on his shirt. "Lunny". wtf Isn't "Lunny" leaving in the summer on a free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, alanharper said: The warmer weather brings them out. Saw a grown man earlier on the school run - tattoos, pig shirt on, with number 7 and "Lunny" printed on the back. Grown man. Player name on his shirt. "Lunny". wtf Sure it was an L and not giant C? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longreach Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 11 hours ago, helmut_rooster said: Sure it was an L and not giant C? Ohh, you mean Mr Lingus.........I know who you mean now! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda800 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 14 hours ago, alanharper said: The warmer weather brings them out. Saw a grown man earlier on the school run - tattoos, pig shirt on, with number 7 and "Lunny" printed on the back. Grown man. Player name on his shirt. "Lunny". wtf Could have been worse he could have been shirtless exposing his tubby ways with dem blades tattoos carrying a can of carling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 On 27/03/2021 at 22:15, scram said: Hang on chaps It's well established among the intelligensia of owlstalk master football operators that if you have the absolute temerity to evaluate cwissy's career and surimse it's not all that then you "clearly know nothing about football" TL:DR Don't critique the greatest manager in hisory ever... Ah. The old adage that you have to be at either end of a polar opinion and there is no in between. Point me to anyone on here who has said he is the greatest manager in history. Thought you weren't watching professional football matches on principle this season so not sure how you can evaluate this campaign anyway. Is he the greatest manager of all time? Clearly not but then nobody has said that. Has he failed miserably when given a bigger transfer budget? absolutely. Did he do a good job to get a team that had failed for 5 seasons in division 3 to 9th place in the Premier League in 4 seasons? I'd say yes, especially when the team included players like Sharp, Fleck, Baldock, Stevens, Basham, none of whom were particularly standing out in the 3rd division. Has he looked after him self? It seems so and it is hilarious to look at some of their fans who worship him as always putting the club above himself, his regular personal contract renewals throughout his time highlighted that. However, show me a manager who hasn't. He has left them somewhat in turmoil as the club wouldn't back him further in the transfer market due to his failures in that respect but they clearly didn't have a plan in place to move forward without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Three key staff have left #sufc - including the man @deanhenderson once told me would help him become the best goalkeeper in the world if they could continue working together. #twitterblades https://t.co/iwqE0b9Pia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, darra said: Three key staff have left #sufc - including the man @deanhenderson once told me would help him become the best goalkeeper in the world if they could continue working together. #twitterblades https://t.co/iwqE0b9Pia Shame he didn't teach Ramsdale how to catch a cross or start diving before the ball hits the net. Must have assumed that at £18.5m he was already the finished article. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, darra said: Three key staff have left #sufc - including the man @deanhenderson once told me would help him become the best goalkeeper in the world if they could continue working together. #twitterblades https://t.co/iwqE0b9Pia Humble 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 14 hours ago, darra said: Three key staff have left #sufc - including the man @deanhenderson once told me would help him become the best goalkeeper in the world if they could continue working together. #twitterblades https://t.co/iwqE0b9Pia According to that article “Prestridge was also a member of Wilder’s brains trust at Bramall Lane”. Wtf? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Pablo Bonvin said: According to that article “Prestridge was also a member of Wilder’s brains trust at Bramall Lane”. Wtf? Several of them each allocating their one brain cell??? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 21 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: Ah. The old adage that you have to be at either end of a polar opinion and there is no in between. Point me to anyone on here who has said he is the greatest manager in history. Thought you weren't watching professional football matches on principle this season so not sure how you can evaluate this campaign anyway. Is he the greatest manager of all time? Clearly not but then nobody has said that. Has he failed miserably when given a bigger transfer budget? absolutely. Did he do a good job to get a team that had failed for 5 seasons in division 3 to 9th place in the Premier League in 4 seasons? I'd say yes, especially when the team included players like Sharp, Fleck, Baldock, Stevens, Basham, none of whom were particularly standing out in the 3rd division. Has he looked after him self? It seems so and it is hilarious to look at some of their fans who worship him as always putting the club above himself, his regular personal contract renewals throughout his time highlighted that. However, show me a manager who hasn't. He has left them somewhat in turmoil as the club wouldn't back him further in the transfer market due to his failures in that respect but they clearly didn't have a plan in place to move forward without him. yeah i think it's fairly obvious i was being facetious and using a bit of poetic licence You know the hyperbole that fans can drift in to at times I mean, i've belted out "by far the greatest team" without ever coming close to believing it to be true Maybe it's because of the locality that he has been highlighted so much on here so rasing much more interest But 3 managers a season get promoted to the premier - many were going to be the next best thing Not that many make it stick and go on the be the greats predicted We've all seen it time and again and i've been around football for long enough (although clearly knowing nothing about it) to not get carried away - as mutual old pal boothrod demonstrates When looked at in the round - wilder's premier performance has been one of a comendable season followed by an utterly abject one - comparable to the very worst in premier history - it's not a sin or sign of misunderstanding to call that out. He clearly cannot deal with failure and projected so much this season - nothing was his fault, the club hadn't backed him, the players let him down etc etc etc And it seems a lot of drunk his kool aid too Seeing the emporor wasn't wearing a flesh coloured body suit and was in fact naked isn't weakness 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, scram said: yeah i think it's fairly obvious i was being facetious and using a bit of poetic licence You know the hyperbole that fans can drift in to at times I mean, i've belted out "by far the greatest team" without ever coming close to believing it to be true Maybe it's because of the locality that he has been highlighted so much on here so rasing much more interest But 3 managers a season get promoted to the premier - many were going to be the next best thing Not that many make it stick and go on the be the greats predicted We've all seen it time and again and i've been around football for long enough (although clearly knowing nothing about it) to not get carried away - as mutual old pal boothrod demonstrates When looked at in the round - wilder's premier performance has been one of a comendable season followed by an utterly abject one - comparable to the very worst in premier history - it's not a sin or sign of misunderstanding to call that out. He clearly cannot deal with failure and projected so much this season - nothing was his fault, the club hadn't backed him, the players let him down etc etc etc And it seems a lot of drunk his kool aid too Seeing the emporor wasn't wearing a flesh coloured body suit and was in fact naked isn't weakness Simply looking at the two Premier League seasons doesn't put his overall performance into context though. With a few lower league additions he took a squad that had failed 5 times in division 3 to 100 points in his first season, with some more additions, generally spending less than many of the teams at the same level, he then took that squad to 9th place in the Premier League in 3 seasons. A fair few of his regulars in the Premier League in the first season were not making standout strides in division 3 before he took over. To me that is a significant achievement. The fact it has fallen apart largely due to the significantly increased budget he was afforded being used unsuccessfully is hilarious, as is the fact he has failed to acknowledge his own significant failures in that respect. The discontent between manager and board has been bubbling under the surface for months if not years. They should have sacked him early on this season when they could have appointed someone with a chance of turning results around to some extent. Not doing so suggested they still felt he would probably be the best man to give getting promotion next season a push, but the discontent was clearly too much to continue with and now they are left in a position where nobody wants to take it on for the remainder of the season and have the relegation on their CV and whoever they do end up with will be on an absolute hiding to nothing from the fanbase if they don't hit the ground running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningaround Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 2 hours ago, nbupperthongowl said: Several of them each allocating their one brain cell??? well life begins with one cell animals, maybe they are using this logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 33 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Simply looking at the two Premier League seasons doesn't put his overall performance into context though. With a few lower league additions he took a squad that had failed 5 times in division 3 to 100 points in his first season, with some more additions, generally spending less than many of the teams at the same level, he then took that squad to 9th place in the Premier League in 3 seasons. A fair few of his regulars in the Premier League in the first season were not making standout strides in division 3 before he took over. To me that is a significant achievement. The fact it has fallen apart largely due to the significantly increased budget he was afforded being used unsuccessfully is hilarious, as is the fact he has failed to acknowledge his own significant failures in that respect. The discontent between manager and board has been bubbling under the surface for months if not years. They should have sacked him early on this season when they could have appointed someone with a chance of turning results around to some extent. Not doing so suggested they still felt he would probably be the best man to give getting promotion next season a push, but the discontent was clearly too much to continue with and now they are left in a position where nobody wants to take it on for the remainder of the season and have the relegation on their CV and whoever they do end up with will be on an absolute hiding to nothing from the fanbase if they don't hit the ground running. His aire of superiority was utterly destroyed by the invite into the gents club (Prem Managers) who tore him to shreds like marauding Vultures, they picked every bit of flesh from the bones. Being the new Kid on the block you can allow being debagged once, but his trousers were had down on multiple occasions. Only Berge was of any value but Wilder couldn't find him a comfortable place in the pack, Still well over valued though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 He believed his own publicity, believed he could do no wrong, it was always someone else's fault He convinced himself that the idea that he "was one of their own" made him invincible and that he could do and say anything His first big error was that he threw his lot in with McCabe thinking he would win the court battle, that can't have gone down well with the new owner he then followed that up with criticising the owner, knowing the majority supporters were on his side and would believe anything he said In the end it turned out he wasn't bigger than the club after all and he could be replaced, however his replacement is on a hiding to nothing if he loses a few games at the beginning of next season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 37 minutes ago, the third man said: He believed his own publicity, believed he could do no wrong, it was always someone else's fault He convinced himself that the idea that he "was one of their own" made him invincible and that he could do and say anything His first big error was that he threw his lot in with McCabe thinking he would win the court battle, that can't have gone down well with the new owner he then followed that up with criticising the owner, knowing the majority supporters were on his side and would believe anything he said In the end it turned out he wasn't bigger than the club after all and he could be replaced, however his replacement is on a hiding to nothing if he loses a few games at the beginning of next season The new manager will have to be 12 points clear after 3 games and playing fantastic football or they will be on his back, should think any British manager will know that so suspect that they will go foreign 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Rly Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56606121 Not going to the pigs then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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