Athelwulf Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 12 hours ago, BIG D said: As it stands 4th bottom are heading for 40 points. At the momoment for the Scrubbers to get 40 points it means they need to pick up points at the rate Leicester have so far this season. United, at PL level, are a very poor team indeed. In fact they're poo. They're one of the poorest I've ever seen at that level. They're a much weaker side in the PL than we are in the Championship. My point is that although their situation has been hopeless for weeks on end, and they've often been outclassed, they're not getting hit for three and four every game. If our lot's situation becomes hopeless, judging by Saturdays efforts, I'm far less certain that we'd only be getting edged out by the odd goal, outclassed or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 If anything, the fact Dem Blades have supposedly played ok, and are still rock bottom with three league wins all season, points towards the fact they are completely out of their depth. Top teams win when playing poorly. Poor teams struggle to win when they play well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: United, at PL level, are a very poor team indeed. In fact they're poo. They're one of the poorest I've ever seen at that level. They're a much weaker side in the PL than we are in the Championship. My point is that although their situation has been hopeless for weeks on end, and they've often been outclassed, they're not getting hit for three and four every game. If our lot's situation becomes hopeless, judging by Saturdays efforts, I'm far less certain that we'd only be getting edged out by the odd goal, outclassed or not. Agreed, although they lose most weeks, they have a backbone & fight regardless. We sadly lack that and just capitulate far too often. I hope that who ever comes in is able to install a fighting mentality in the side. It will certainly have to come through changes to the squad, bacause if we go down we will need it. Like last time, everyone will want to hammer us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 4 hours ago, bigdan2003 said: Stolen from Twitter. Made me chuckle. "Best transfer window ever", the words of Wilder himself. Spent £50m+ turning a 9th place team into a 20th place team. That's pigonomics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I'll say it again: If he was a foreign manager, he'd get absolute pelters. Remember how the likes of Carlos and Jos were treated when things started to go really wrong? Pretty much ridiculed, constantly asked about their future. Staggering double standards. Not with Cwissy Wilder though. No, he is just a bit unlucky and cause they've had a few good seasons he is beyond criticism. 150 million down the tubes. Only Lowe out of the new recruits looks half decent. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, SiJ said: I'll say it again: If he was a foreign manager, he'd get absolute pelters. Remember how the likes of Carlos and Jos were treated when things started to go really wrong? Pretty much ridiculed, constantly asked about their future. Staggering double standards. Not with Cwissy Wilder though. No, he is just a bit unlucky and cause they've had a few good seasons he is beyond criticism. 150 million down the tubes. Only Lowe out of the new recruits looks half decent. He's being saved by the one of our own mantra. Local boy done good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, darra said: He's being saved by the one of our own mantra. Local boy done good Pretty much. He's clearly got the local press by the balls and seems to have a lot of mates in the mainstream media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, darra said: He's being saved by the one of our own mantra. Local boy done good And the fact that they haven't turned on him, actually don't look like they are going to, who is largely because of this It is quite astounding how much they lap up his comments (probably because initially they were anti-wednesday) as being the whole truth and conveniently don't question when it is total testicles or a smoke screen....he has them completely on the hook If he does leave the next incumbent is going to have a very hard time getting them that much onside, could see them getting through a few managers in short time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, marshy said: Agreed, although they lose most weeks, they have a backbone & fight regardless. We sadly lack that and just capitulate far too often. I hope that who ever comes in is able to install a fighting mentality in the side. It will certainly have to come through changes to the squad, bacause if we go down we will need it. Like last time, everyone will want to hammer us. And this is my greatest fear. With Paixao in charge of recruitment, we're in the brown stuff IMO. We need a manager with a sound knowledge of the lower leagues choosing which players to recruit. Cook has that knowledge, although I appreciate that not everybody on this site favours him. And no matter how plop Wilder's recruitment at PL level has been - although I think that United's paltry wage structure has hampered him and limited his options to some extent - his recruitment prior to that was reasonably good. For Wilder to have recruited well at PL level he'd have had to have known the European leagues well, or someone else would have had to assist him. The absence of the latter is down to Abhorrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Django said: They won’t Journos seem scared of him, especially the local ones Anyone remember Giddings proper getting under Jos Luhukays skin in pre and post match interviews? Eventually Jos snapped and swore at him live in air. Nothing of the sort with Wilder Very strange Giddings and co would never upset poor humble Cwissy. Giddings probably still wants to give him a reacharound after last season's heroics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys Salopettes Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Django said: They won’t Journos seem scared of him, especially the local ones Anyone remember Giddings proper getting under Jos Luhukays skin in pre and post match interviews? Eventually Jos snapped and swore at him live in air. Nothing of the sort with Wilder Very strange keys in pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 40 minutes ago, A12owl said: Klopp is getting criticised for their current form. Wilder gets praise for being unlucky. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 hours ago, nbupperthongowl said: And the fact that they haven't turned on him, actually don't look like they are going to, who is largely because of this It is quite astounding how much they lap up his comments (probably because initially they were anti-wednesday) as being the whole truth and conveniently don't question when it is total testicles or a smoke screen....he has them completely on the hook If he does leave the next incumbent is going to have a very hard time getting them that much onside, could see them getting through a few managers in short time Maybe another factor is they're in the EPL so the local journos get to visit places like old Trafford Anfield et al? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, darra said: Maybe another factor is they're in the EPL so the local journos get to visit places like old Trafford Anfield et al? Not now they don't ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 The most frightening thing is they are miles in front of us 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Athelwulf said: And no matter how plop Wilder's recruitment at PL level has been - although I think that United's paltry wage structure has hampered him and limited his options to some extent - his recruitment prior to that was reasonably good. For Wilder to have recruited well at PL level he'd have had to have known the European leagues well, or someone else would have had to assist him. The absence of the latter is down to Abhorrence. So last season their paltry wage structure didn't matter, but this season when he made terrible decisions in the transfer market, suddenly its down to wage structure and not him wasting money why do our supporters make so many excuses for him doing so badly this season, if that was a Wednesday manager we would be slaughtering them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, A12owl said: Klopp is getting criticised for their current form. Wilder gets praise for being unlucky. That's because they have spent no money at all whatsoever and you aren't allowed to say otherwise OK. You aren't allowed to say that he's brought in several high cost flops, it is not allowed it is against the rules. You can't mention that they have spent north of 9 figures it is not allowed. They are unlucky and that's that OK. They beat West Brom and Wilder loves dem blayads and would do it for free if he could, but he can't so he needs a new contract and signing on bonus every 12 months. But you aren't allowed to talk about that either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smhouston Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 On the subject of the penalty.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, the third man said: So last season their paltry wage structure didn't matter, but this season when he made terrible decisions in the transfer market, suddenly its down to wage structure and not him wasting money why do our supporters make so many excuses for him doing so badly this season, if that was a Wednesday manager we would be slaughtering them I said it had affected recruitment to some extent, not entirely. The fact that United's wage structure is amongst the lowest in the PL doesn't help recruitment, surely? After all, Hooper, FF, and Fletcher must have been earning over £100 000 a week combined, and Carlos didn't get us up. And since those three have left, due to a more modest wage structure, it looks like we'll finally get over the line after all. The snag is, it's the wrong line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, bladeshater said: The most frightening thing is they are miles in front of us Yes, we are all aware of that. Though we may well be playing each other next season. We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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