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1 hour ago, Ellis Rimmer said:

The best comparable we have is last season hence using that and they were miles better than the best championship team now, as they have been for a few years, so based on 'logic' why are Norwich suddenly better? because all you have to go on for Norwich is that they're winning against much inferior teams than that United are playing against. 

 

 

So youre saying theyll be be the best in the championship.....because they were good 2 seasons before? That doesnt make sense at all

 

And didnt norwich go up as champions the year pigs finished second?

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If the season ended now, on the 17th of January, then this United team probably would be strong contenders in the Championship next time around.

 

The reason being that the players are still playing for Wilder; they're getting beaten by teams with better players, but they're not getting hammered and they've not yet given up.

 

Last time the Blades were in the Championship their success wasn't so much based on individual quality, but rather on management, team spirit, cohesion and the like.

 

Which was frustrating for us, as man for man we looked at least as good as them.

 

However, there's a long way to go yet before the end of the PL season.

 

We've no way of knowing what will be the mindset of Wilder or his players in May.

 

Tufty already looks a broken man, and he gurned, twitched and squinted perhaps more today than ever.

 

He cuts a sorry figure and suddenly looks frail and stooped, and there's half a season to go yet.

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The fizz has an intangible debate on something that cannot be proved and in opinions gone on for so long. 

 

******** gi or. Pigs are ********. Enjoy it. 

 

 

Side note, I don't think the comments about the players not been arsed etc is true. What I see is the majority of them are still busting their balls for the cause. They're just not very good. Like I've said before Burke gets in some really good positions then does nothing. Norwood and Fleck are getting less time this season and their touch isn't up to par, and teams have figured them out. 

 

No lack of effort generally just a huge lack of ability. Oh and Ramsdale 😂

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12 minutes ago, Athelwulf said:

If the season ended now, on the 17th of January, then this United team probably would be strong contenders in the Championship next time around.

 

The reason being that the players are still playing for Wilder; they're getting beaten by teams with better players, but they're not getting hammered and they've not yet given up.

 

 

They're getting beaten virtually every game

 

I remember last season saying i thought they would suffer this season because they don't have good players and 2nd season syndrome would see them found out

 

They will have a shout for promotion if they get relegated - just as the bottom 3 from last season are in the top 5 now

 

I also think that Wilder has been massively over rated by many - a very average managerial career with a couple of very good seasons

 

I don't think he's all that tbh - and their team definitely isn't all that

 

And although people may call the championship a load of dross - we all know what a tough division it is with every team seemingly capable of beating any other

 

It's why it is a hard league to get out of

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Pigs are so sh*ite they make ANY effort from opposition seem like worldies.

Excepting 10 man Newcastle, they make other PL teams look like CLeague quality.

 

shame on Wilder-pig

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Have to remember that the inflated contracts a lot of this squad will now be on following promotion to the PL will see them having to cut their wage bill drastically. 

 

Hardly likely their 'key' players (that aren't good enough for the PL) will want to take a drop, even if it does still mean playing for them and Wilder - with the exception of Sharp, none of them have ties to the club so hardly likely to stick around. 

 

It's a big call for the Prince and for Wilder tbh - stick or twist? I can't see Wilder walking, but it's whether or not dropping from the PL will see him backed again by the board given he's spanked £120m up the wall on players that haven't really made an impact for them. 

 

The likes of Norwich, WBA and Fulham have had the fallback of yo yoing for a good number of years, this is their 1st time back and I think they got over ambitious following last season. Ageing squad in some respects, a number of which have come up the leagues with them so they are now relying on reproducing the same again in the transfer market - is Wilder likely to strike it lucky again? Probably not. 

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28 minutes ago, fudge27 said:

The fizz has an intangible debate on something that cannot be proved and in opinions gone on for so long. 

 

******** gi or. Pigs are ********. Enjoy it. 

 

 

Side note, I don't think the comments about the players not been arsed etc is true. What I see is the majority of them are still busting their balls for the cause. They're just not very good. Like I've said before Burke gets in some really good positions then does nothing. Norwood and Fleck are getting less time this season and their touch isn't up to par, and teams have figured them out. 

 

No lack of effort generally just a huge lack of ability. Oh and Ramsdale 😂

 

Seriously?

This is Owlstalk, the home of pointless debate! 

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30 minutes ago, fudge27 said:

The fizz has an intangible debate on something that cannot be proved and in opinions gone on for so long. 

 

******** gi or. Pigs are ********. Enjoy it. 

 

 

Side note, I don't think the comments about the players not been arsed etc is true. What I see is the majority of them are still busting their balls for the cause. They're just not very good. Like I've said before Burke gets in some really good positions then does nothing. Norwood and Fleck are getting less time this season and their touch isn't up to par, and teams have figured them out. 

 

No lack of effort generally just a huge lack of ability. Oh and Ramsdale 😂

Re your side note...what accounts for their success last year versus this year then (an enhanced squad)..are you saying Henderson?

 

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2 hours ago, scram said:

Probably the worst team in PL history

 

Quite why that qualifies them as better than any team in the championship is pretty baffling tbf

Yes and they’ve just taken out a loan against their tv money up until 2023, meaning that’s their parachute payments already gone too.

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3 minutes ago, Bluestripe said:

Re your side note...what accounts for their success last year versus this year then (an enhanced squad)..are you saying Henderson?

 

Henderson somewhat, momentum that then picks up some result gets confidence flowing, and teams not having seen much of the system before. 

 

Perfect storm of over achievement, not improving, cohesion upset by new signings, losing best player and being worked out. Shame that 

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2 minutes ago, fudge27 said:

Henderson somewhat, momentum that then picks up some result gets confidence flowing, and teams not having seen much of the system before. 

 

Perfect storm of over achievement, not improving, cohesion upset by new signings, losing best player and being worked out. Shame that 

You missed the 30,000 Pigs screaming with pashun?

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27 minutes ago, WatfordOwl said:

Have to remember that the inflated contracts a lot of this squad will now be on following promotion to the PL will see them having to cut their wage bill drastically. 

 

Hardly likely their 'key' players (that aren't good enough for the PL) will want to take a drop, even if it does still mean playing for them and Wilder - with the exception of Sharp, none of them have ties to the club so hardly likely to stick around. 

 

It's a big call for the Prince and for Wilder tbh - stick or twist? I can't see Wilder walking, but it's whether or not dropping from the PL will see him backed again by the board given he's spanked £120m up the wall on players that haven't really made an impact for them. 

 

The likes of Norwich, WBA and Fulham have had the fallback of yo yoing for a good number of years, this is their 1st time back and I think they got over ambitious following last season. Ageing squad in some respects, a number of which have come up the leagues with them so they are now relying on reproducing the same again in the transfer market - is Wilder likely to strike it lucky again? Probably not. 

I think they were fully expecting to be relegated last season, so bought championship players. When it became clear that they were staying up they panicked (not by being too ambitious) by panic buying players 'better' than those they had been looking at previously.... with out doing the usual due diligence

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Looking at their squad the only players I could see shifting in are, Baldock, O'Connell, Berge, Brewster Lundstram and maybe Egan or Basham if any lower end teams need back up CBs. 

 

Trouble with Baldock is he needs to play as a wing back cos he's not good enough in a 4, Lundstram is out of contract anyway. Not much money in them saleable assets. Maybe 30 million max, but with the inflated wage bill that won't last for long 

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4 minutes ago, fudge27 said:

Looking at their squad the only players I could see shifting in are, Baldock, O'Connell, Berge, Brewster Lundstram and maybe Egan or Basham if any lower end teams need back up CBs. 

 

Trouble with Baldock is he needs to play as a wing back cos he's not good enough in a 4, Lundstram is out of contract anyway. Not much money in them saleable assets. Maybe 30 million max, but with the inflated wage bill that won't last for long 

Egan, O'Connell and basham all play in a 3 at the back and are suspect in a back 4...so a limited market for them, assuming O'Connell gets back fit

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46 minutes ago, WatfordOwl said:

Have to remember that the inflated contracts a lot of this squad will now be on following promotion to the PL will see them having to cut their wage bill drastically. 

 

Hardly likely their 'key' players (that aren't good enough for the PL) will want to take a drop, even if it does still mean playing for them and Wilder - with the exception of Sharp, none of them have ties to the club so hardly likely to stick around. 

 

It's a big call for the Prince and for Wilder tbh - stick or twist? I can't see Wilder walking, but it's whether or not dropping from the PL will see him backed again by the board given he's spanked £120m up the wall on players that haven't really made an impact for them. 

 

The likes of Norwich, WBA and Fulham have had the fallback of yo yoing for a good number of years, this is their 1st time back and I think they got over ambitious following last season. Ageing squad in some respects, a number of which have come up the leagues with them so they are now relying on reproducing the same again in the transfer market - is Wilder likely to strike it lucky again? Probably not. 

Said it a while back some of the top earners and newer players agents will be working overtime to find their players a deal for next season. 

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7 hours ago, The only way is S6 said:

 

And I'll get my 🐓 out in Co-op window if they do.

Half hoping they get a draw at one of them now! lol

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Leaving aside the leeds Utd choke which handed Pigs 2nd auto spot.....wilders shocking selection of new blood costing £120mill, let’s agree it’s been a disaster. 
 

Week upon week, players who created a record-breaking PL sequence of failure are now appearing on world football screens, with NO heart, no ambition.

With new depths of failure yet to plumb, isn’t talk about the market worth of sheff Utd football a joke?

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Just looked at the table and noticed that Villa have 21 points more, despite having played four games fewer. Extraordinary when you compare their respective campaigns last season.

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