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43 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

Monk is still here


Chansiri was never going to sack him because a few fans had short sighted views and spat their dummies out and cried like babies


Was never going to happen

Monk is still here and off to an absolute flyer


BACK HIM

Was never going to happen? Is that opinion or fact? You can’t have it both ways. 

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2 minutes ago, vulva said:

Was never going to happen? Is that opinion or fact? You can’t have it both ways. 

 

Anything pro Monk is fact. Anything neutral or negative is opinion and/ or flat out wrong. That's my understanding anyway.

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Garry Monks record as a Manager is average, I believe he isn’t good enough for Sheffield Wednesday. I don’t see that changing, but my views won’t be wobbled by a couple of wins or losses, with the hysteria that follows. They’re based on long term consistency of output, tone and results.

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12 minutes ago, slow83 said:

Garry Monks record as a Manager is average, I believe he isn’t good enough for Sheffield Wednesday. I don’t see that changing, but my views won’t be wobbled by a couple of wins or losses, with the hysteria that follows. They’re based on long term consistency of output, tone and results.


When you say “ isn’t good enough for Sheffield Wednesday “ , do you realise the state we are in.

12 pts ded, bottom of the league, slashing the wage bill, still under FFP pressure, a club run like a work coffee club....

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NO HE WOULD NOT could become an Owlstalk chant couldn’t it. Much like Trump's LOCK HER UP! Or maybe Bill Clinton's I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN. Although to be fair, naughty Bill didn’t shout, he sort of said it in a cool, calm, collected way while lying through his teeth! 

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16 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said:

 

Wow

What? Do you think that’s a bit of a stretch! 

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On 16/09/2020 at 08:53, A E Neuman NYowl said:

Well I must in your opinion be "very silly indeed" as I wanted him gone at the end of last season.

 

The reason I wanted him gone was that for 5 months I saw some of the most inept clueless performances I have witnessed from Wednesday in a long time.

 

You are making a big deal about what went off at Xmas and using as an excuse for the turgid rubbish we saw. If something did go off at Xmas  it's the manager job to cope with it and work around it. We had enough quality to compete better than we did.

 

For balance I have always stated that the decision to bring in Monk without any backroom staff was criminal but doesn't excuse our truly dreadful performances.

the one continued failing of the backstabbers is that they will not accept that our entire forward line other than fletcher was worth less than a ford cortina.

they continue to say 'a manager' should have done better, but fail to say how, and it wasn't that particular manager in charge when the assembly of shyte was done....

 

 

 

....it was 'their hero'.

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On 16/09/2020 at 10:46, @owlstalk said:



Agreed 

And quite the shift from Chansiri's previous stance


Credit to him for evolving and not REvolving

unfortunately when he came in we required evolution, not revolution.

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6 hours ago, vulva said:

We’ve made a strong start to the season but people are getting carried away. Had it not been for Covid, Monk would have been sacked. Long way to go, but long may this current run continue. Watford on Saturday is a decent benchmark as to where we are. 

the hardest game for some time isn't 'a decent benchmark' at all, it's the hardest pressure game for some time, that's why you're wanting it as a benchmark.

i would have thought that you might have wanted cardiff, or did you go off that one at 0-1, or 0-2?

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2 hours ago, slow83 said:

Garry Monks record as a Manager is average, I believe he isn’t good enough for Sheffield Wednesday. I don’t see that changing, but my views won’t be wobbled by a couple of wins or losses, with the hysteria that follows. They’re based on long term consistency of output, tone and results.

who would you advocate bringing in then?

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5 hours ago, @owlstalk said:



Again  - NO - NO HE WOULD NOT

Chansiri knew the real issues at the club and knew that sacking Monk wouldn't fix those issues


In fact Monk isn't just delivering a new exciting era, he's tidying up the absolute carnage that was at our club

Just trotting things out like 'Covid saved Monk' and 'He would have been sacked' just isn't true no matter how much you hate Monk, no matter how much you want it to be true.

It just is NOT true

Get behind the manager ffs

they rather hack an arm off than back the sheffield wednesday manager, but not the arm with the dagger in it.

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7 hours ago, vulva said:

We’ve made a strong start to the season but people are getting carried away. Had it not been for Covid, Monk would have been sacked. Long way to go, but long may this current run continue. Watford on Saturday is a decent benchmark as to where we are. 

 

I agree. We are still a long way from stopping from stopping up this season.
Still on minus 9, no strength in depth and still lack goals in the side.
Last season we beat Reading 2-0 away first game and had a retched season.

 

But I am a lot more optimistic then I was this time last week.

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2 hours ago, Mr Farrell said:

Here's one for you.

 

Monk won't be here next season.

 

Feel free to quote this post.

who will?

a third division manager?

someone so desperate that he'd step in at s6 with their last 5/6 years history?

or someone with 15 jobs in 16 years who hasn't worked for nigh on half a decade?

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7 minutes ago, dorian gray said:

the hardest game for some time isn't 'a decent benchmark' at all, it's the hardest pressure game for some time, that's why you're wanting it as a benchmark.

i would have thought that you might have wanted cardiff, or did you go off that one at 0-1, or 0-2?

It’s a benchmark as they will probably finish top 6. The result will also add some context to the previous results this season. 

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As a Wednesday fan I just want us to win games and do well. Obviously that means I want our managers and players to do well also.

 

I don't get this obsession with posting reactionary things after every result though. 3 good results to start the season, great. But it doesn't have to be accompanied by "See Monk is great and doing a good job and proved all the doubters wrong", many of you saying this will be on his back if we don't win our next 3. Nor do I think it's necessary to say "Well I'm still Monk out", just wish us well?

 

It's like with Rhodes, whenever he scores there's always a load of posts on here about how he's back and just needs the service, you end up looking daft when he doesn't score for another 5 months.

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Just now, Carbone said:

As a Wednesday fan I just want us to win games and do well. Obviously that means I want our managers and players to do well also.

 

I don't get this obsession with posting reactionary things after every result though. 3 good results to start the season, great. But it doesn't have to be accompanied by "See Monk is great and doing a good job and proved all the doubters wrong", many of you saying this will be on his back if we don't win our next 3. Nor do I think it's necessary to say "Well I'm still Monk out", just wish us well?

 

It's like with Rhodes, whenever he scores there's always a load of posts on here about how he's back and just needs the service, you end up looking daft when he doesn't score for another 5 months.



Rhodes scored just the other day mate?!!

He's BACK!

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Just now, vulva said:

It’s a benchmark as they will probably finish top 6. The result will also add some context to the previous results this season. 

the two league cup (or whatever it's called this time around) results aren't worth a bean to me, they cost you injuries and fatigue in a trophy you're not going to win.

so i'm at cardiff city 0-2, cracking result.

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