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2 hours ago, sethman75 said:

Would be an amazing signing if they can pull it off. 

 

Midfield looks class and the defence solid. 

 

Only issue for me would be keeper, Dawson is not good enough for 1st choice.

Dawson has been part of that solid defence surely.

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5 minutes ago, 83owl said:

Made plenty of worse signings than stevie may. Yeah he didn’t work out but I think we made our money back by selling him.

My point was paying 2 million for Dykes an unproven Scottish striker would have been a massive gamble, whereas Zohore has proven championship experience.  

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34 minutes ago, Willow Owl said:

My point was paying 2 million for Dykes an unproven Scottish striker would have been a massive gamble, whereas Zohore has proven championship experience.  

 

This has been the problem with our approach in recent years, tending to overlook up and coming talent in favour of over-priced experience and players on the slide. Dykes was clearly a player on an upward curve. Since moving, he's already scored on debut for club and country. He will be worth multiples of the 2mil paid within a couple of years.

As for comparisons with signing Stevie May...Dykes has all the attributes to adapt well to the English game that May never had. Dykes is big, strong, physical, mobile, good in the air, and can finish. May was short, slow, lightweight, and weak.

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4 hours ago, Lawrie Madden said:

Michael Gray said on TS that Wednesday and the attitude of some in the dressing room hastened his retirement as he fell out of love with playing .

I think he wasn't impressed with Mark Beevers and Tommy Spurr as he cited young lads who had just made the 1st team behaving like they had made it now and didn't have to respect or listen to anyone, he didn't name them but it was fairly obvious to a Wednesdayite that he meant those 2 

100% dont agree with this,everybody in the game I know says Spurr had a fantastic attitude, worked hard , nice lad, not a billy big balls.In fact the opposite.  

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57 minutes ago, IWEDFM said:

 

Agree with the last part, having said that Dawson kept a clean sheet against a decent Cardiff side so deserves a chance

 

I think we missed out on two decent, experienced keepers in David Marshall and Neil Etheridge who signed for Derby and Brum 

no way would we have signed Etheridge on his wages !

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6 hours ago, BarnsleyOwl96 said:

Dykes for me is slightly over rated and be surprised if he gets more than a dozen , record at Livingston was very average 


To be fair Zohore hasn’t got many more than that in a season

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10 minutes ago, wilyfox said:

 

This has been the problem with our approach in recent years, tending to overlook up and coming talent in favour of over-priced experience and players on the slide. Dykes was clearly a player on an upward curve. Since moving, he's already scored on debut for club and country. He will be worth multiples of the 2mil paid within a couple of years.

As for comparisons with signing Stevie May...Dykes has all the attributes to adapt well to the English game that May never had. Dykes is big, strong, physical, mobile, good in the air, and can finish. May was short, slow, lightweight, and weak.

It wasn't a comparison, I was merely stating that 2 million on an unproven Scottish striker is a massive gamble, and Stevie May was an example of what can happen. Zohore in my opinion, would be a safer bet as he has championship pedigree.

 
 

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12 minutes ago, Willow Owl said:

It wasn't a comparison, I was merely stating that 2 million on an unproven Scottish striker is a massive gamble, and Stevie May was an example of what can happen. Zohore in my opinion, would be a safer bet as he has championship pedigree.

 
 

Zohore still a gamble imo as a full signing? On loan no problem? Went to wba didn’t pull any trees up but scored a few that in actual fact got them up? Take his goals away still in this league so the 8m gamble worked ? Our 8m gamble didn’t ( Rhodes?) think he as everything in paper we’re looking for but at wot price? IF it’s a full signing we’re defo gambling on that he delivers? Hope he does ? 

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I've had a few beers today... But I still cannot reconcile how players can still command such exhorbetent wages,.... notwithstanding the restrictrictions, unemployment, that the majority of us will be left in the current situation 

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1 hour ago, wilyfox said:

 

This has been the problem with our approach in recent years, tending to overlook up and coming talent in favour of over-priced experience and players on the slide. Dykes was clearly a player on an upward curve. Since moving, he's already scored on debut for club and country. He will be worth multiples of the 2mil paid within a couple of years.

As for comparisons with signing Stevie May...Dykes has all the attributes to adapt well to the English game that May never had. Dykes is big, strong, physical, mobile, good in the air, and can finish. May was short, slow, lightweight, and weak.

Good at eating kiwi fruit though 🥝 

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1 hour ago, nethertonowl said:

100% dont agree with this,everybody in the game I know says Spurr had a fantastic attitude, worked hard , nice lad, not a billy big balls.In fact the opposite.  

Same, never heard anything but praise for Spurr's attitude

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1 hour ago, Bluesteel said:


To be fair Zohore hasn’t got many more than that in a season

TBF Fletcher didn't either. He achieved his best ever total last season which was 13, including penalties, so anybody who can get 12 or more would be a welcome addition in that context.  

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6 hours ago, Lawrie Madden said:

Michael Gray said on TS that Wednesday and the attitude of some in the dressing room hastened his retirement as he fell out of love with playing .

I think he wasn't impressed with Mark Beevers and Tommy Spurr as he cited young lads who had just made the 1st team behaving like they had made it now and didn't have to respect or listen to anyone, he didn't name them but it was fairly obvious to a Wednesdayite that he meant those 2 


Well in that Undr the Cosh Gray episode, said the young lads were good and criticised JJ and Clarke. No mention of Spurr or Beevers having a bad attitude. Went on to say Clarke was one of the worse players for nasty attitude.

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3 minutes ago, SwellOwl said:


Well in that Undr the Cosh Gray episode, said the young lads were good and criticised JJ and Clarke. No mention of Spurr or Beevers having a bad attitude. Went on to say Clarke was one of the worse players for nasty attitude.


Clarke must have matured as he got older. If his attitude was so bad I don’t think he would have lasted under Wilder at the Pigs. 

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2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said:


Clarke must have matured as he got older. If his attitude was so bad I don’t think he would have lasted under Wilder at the Pigs. 


People can change and he must have done. Gray said same that he was surprised to see same guy playing for them.

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3 hours ago, Willow Owl said:

Dawson has been part of that solid defence surely.


Dawson admittedly hasn’t had a great deal to do but he has looked a lot more calm and assured with his catching and especially his kicking. 
Maybe best thing to happen was the new goalkeeper coach. Under Weaver I thought the keeper went backwards. 

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11 minutes ago, sheffwed1 said:


Dawson admittedly hasn’t had a great deal to do but he has looked a lot more calm and assured with his catching and especially his kicking. 
Maybe best thing to happen was the new goalkeeper coach. Under Weaver I thought the keeper went backwards. 

Keepers*
wont let me edit 

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27 minutes ago, sheffwed1 said:


Dawson admittedly hasn’t had a great deal to do but he has looked a lot more calm and assured with his catching and especially his kicking. 
Maybe best thing to happen was the new goalkeeper coach. Under Weaver I thought the keeper went backwards. 

Difficult for both keepers last season when the defence in front of them was all over the place as well. As you say new coaching team, new ideas could be just what they need 

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Shame if we aren’t able to get him due to wages but shows just how crazy football is. Not going to get games in the PL and could well be too expensive for anyone Outside of the PL to take on - bizarre!

 

Guess we’ll have to see what happens tomorrow when the ‘supposed’ talks take place.

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